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How many people who hold the sedevacantist position are willing or do go to an una cuм mass?

I just can't.  I've tried, but it in the end, if I truly believe Bergoglio is a heretic, dare say an apostate, then what business do I have participating in a Mass that is prayed "in union with" him?

I just can't.  I've tried, but it in the end, if I truly believe Bergoglio is a heretic, dare say an apostate, then what business do I have participating in a Mass that is prayed "in union with" him?

This is AngelusMaria that posted this reply.  I didn't mean for it to be αnσnymσus

I am willing to go to an una cuм Mass, but don't have access to one. Thankfully there's an SSPX parish within an hour from me with an old school Society priest, so I'm still getting the true sacraments even though he says "Francesco" in the canon.

I also don't really believe in the una cuм issue anyway. Call me a liberal if you like, whatever.

If you had a non una cuм within same distance would you still choose SSPX?

I am willing to go to an una cuм Mass, but don't have access to one. Thankfully there's an SSPX parish within an hour from me with an old school Society priest, so I'm still getting the true sacraments even though he says "Francesco" in the canon.

I also don't really believe in the una cuм issue anyway. Call me a liberal if you like, whatever.

Don't call me a liberal for saying that I don't have a problem with you going to an una cuм even though I can't do it.  A major problem I see in the "Trad" circles is a lack of leeway.  This is understandable, as laxity and ambiguity have been the major weapons of the Enemy, but in a time of great confusion, as a Sede, I  believe we are lacking in the role of the Pope, whose whole Office is meant to be a point of unity and clarity.  I can't fathom the existence of a God who doesn't see that we are dust, and our own dust is blown into a sandstorm making it very difficult to discern which way is north.  I am trusting that He is searching for those who, in the midst of the sandstorm can't find their bearings, are doing their very best to at least still know which way is up.  I cut a lot of slack in such areas as una cuм, bod.  R&R I find myself increasingly less tolerant though, because to uphold many of their positions, they have to redefine the faith into meaninglessness.
 

Speaking from the other side of the fence, as a non-sede who is nevertheless not 100% persuaded one way or the other --- and I ultimately settle the doubt, for practical purposes (such as this one) in favor of Francis being pope, though it's not exactly the high point of my day to have to accept him --- I have tried to justify assisting at non-una cuм Masses, but I just can't do it.  I've gone to non-una cuм Masses before, using the reason of "a priest being in error as to the status of the Chair of Peter in the here and now, similar to a priest who gets up one morning, hasn't read or turned on the news yet, the Pope died in the middle of the night, and then he goes to the church and celebrates una cuм, not knowing that there is no Pope".  That's pretty tendentious, and while it sounds good in theory, I can't convince myself that it would be a good general rule to follow.

It is an error to believe that if the pope were a reprobate and an evil man and consequently a member of the devil, he has no power over the faithful.  Council of Constance