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« on: April 05, 2016, 03:26:22 PM »
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  • This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gαy and invites your family to their so called wedding?


    The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids?   This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?


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    « Reply #1 on: April 05, 2016, 03:43:50 PM »
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    This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gαy and invites your family to their so called wedding?

    You cannot go to a fαɢɢօt wedding under any circuмstances because by going you are showing your approval of the abomination.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 03:56:38 PM »
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  • Can't go to the reception either.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 04:00:15 PM »
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  • If they invite you at all, that equates to you having already failed.

    If the kids do not know to stay away, it's because you are not staying away which implies acceptance or compromise. So you need to disown the queers completely and you explain it to the kids in terms they understand - i.e. "we do not go by them" - kids do not need much more explanation, too much explanation can be scandalous to kids.  

    The queers should know well why you've disowned them, there should be zero doubt in their minds about why you've disowned them and that it would take their conversion, their coming back to the true faith before you will have anything to do with them.

    I am guessing that most trads have lost close family members because of persevering in the faith, that's the way it goes. When that happens, it is their fault, not yours.

     



     

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 04:02:18 PM »
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  • I have already lost two of my siblings to this issue.  They aren't ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs themselves but have friends they consider dear who are and the fact that I clearly disapprove has driven a wedge between us.  We communicate exceedingly rarely.

    I would never attend such an event nor would I ever acknowledge it.  I would not place both names on any Christmas card or other correspondence.  I would not invite them to the house as a couple, though, frankly, my invitations to family would never be accepted anyway.  

    This must be explained to the children in clear and uncompromising terms.  I think the failure to explain reality to the children is why so many children of the original SSPX faithful have no problem with a reconciliation with the Modernist Vatican--indeed, many are positively clamoring for it.  They really don't know why the SSPX exists as a separate entity (of course, I'm not sure Bishop Fellay really knows why either).

    Just be grateful that you do not have to fear having your head removed from your shoulders as was the case of Saint Thomas More for refusing to recognize a divorce and remarriage.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2016, 04:20:35 PM »
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  • How about going to the gαy wedding and pray as a family in back of hall for their conversion.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2016, 04:31:04 PM »
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  • By "gαy wedding", do you meaning "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ marriage"? If so, there is no such thing.



    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2016, 07:40:19 PM »
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  • You should merely send them a gift of a CD (or whatever people use these days) of a good Trad priest giving a very harsh sermon on the topic and never talk to them again. I'm sure someone here knows a few.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 07:48:30 PM »
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  • A person could develop a pressing prior engagement, fake an illness. It is weak, but might seem a way to get peace.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 08:36:02 PM »
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  • No, it is an act of charity, and a duty, to let them know the reason you refuse to go.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 01:08:16 AM »
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  • What you should do, is tell both of them God hates them as they are abominations and will be surely burn in Hell for all eternity in just a few short years (if lucky, otherwise even tomorrow).

    Also remind them that in the good old days they would have already been executed for their crime. Now I would attend that kind of event.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 05:30:25 PM »
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  • Why are you afraid to say NO!  You wished to be liked?!  You must must face your God!  

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    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 10:56:54 PM »
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  • It's called Human respect:

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     May 2007 Special - Frank Duff on Human Respect in Can We Be Saints

    The danger of Human Respect is not sufficiently recognized. In almost every Catholic it is a weak spot. In the case of some, it is a defect so grave as to put real holiness out of the question. Human Respect may be defined as the putting of the opinion of others in the place of our conscience. It sets up ridicule and unpopularity as the thing most to be avoided even at the risk of offending against truth and principle. Beginning in small things, if constantly yielded to Human Respect brings about a general lowering of principle. A state of mind is reached which is as different from sanctity as chalk is from cheese.

    You have always been in the habit of blessing yourself when at your meals. When not at home, through a form, of shame, you do not do this. This is Human Respect.

    You always touch your hat as you pass a Church -except when with Protestants? You would not have a religious picture in your drawingroom. You are shy about making the Stations of the Cross. You would be mortified if your Rosary Beads fell from your pocket in Protestant company or in the bus. All these are signs of the disease we are discussing.

    In a word, you are so taken up with making your conduct acceptable to others that you have no room for the thought that God might have been pleased by these little open professions of Faith. You have treated Him as the rich are supposed to treat their poor relations -acknowledging them in private, ignoring them in public.

    In the life of St. Philip Neri, we read how that Saint was in the habit of imposing very humiliating penances upon his disciples in his anxiety to destroy in them any trace of this mean spirit. Such practices would nowadays be termed extreme. Here is a suggestion, which is not extreme. It will help anyone resolved upon the destruction of this failing . . . Wear openly something Catholic; some little devotional badge or emblem that will mark you as a Catholic, who is not ashamed to be known as one. The feeling of unwillingness to do this, which will come to many, is the best test of its value; it is the spirit you seek to kill that is protesting in you.

    Such objection as: "I don't believe in badge-wearing," and "I don't believe in making a parade of my religion," are usually not sincere. Those who speak in this way seldom seem to have any objection to wearing political or trade badges. Be honest with yourself. The trouble is that you are not really proud of being a Catholic. It is human nature to publish the fact if you are.

    The priest and the nun advertise themselves to the world for what they are. Let the laity also, in the little ways that are open to them, confess Christ before men that He may one day confess them before His Father in Heaven. But in this let there be wholesome moderation. Do nothing that will earn for yourself the name of mere eccentricity.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
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    « Reply #13 on: April 06, 2016, 11:05:12 PM »
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  • I have come to the conclusion that part of the Christian path of holiness is spiritual (and many times physical) detachment from families and friends as well as a total renouncement of the world and the love of creatures. That is God's will. Do not fear losing relatives for defending Catholic doctrine. Catholicism clearly teaches that sodomy is a mortal sin, so repugnant that even the demons flee from.

    Do not attend this diabolical ceremony. Take heart in these words of Our Lord:

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    37He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. 38And he that taketh not up his cross, and followeth me, is not worthy of me. 39He that findeth his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for me, shall find it.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 06, 2016, 11:33:19 PM »
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    This is a hot topic. Not sure if this had been asked before here but what do you do if a close family member comes out gαy and invites your family to their so called wedding?


    The other members of your family go along with this. This puts you in a position where you might lose your family in terms of them ignoring you. Can you attend and sit way in back praying rosary With your wife and kids?   This is very tricky. How to explain it to kids?


    I can guarantee you that I would be unavoidably out of town that day.