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« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2016, 10:05:56 PM »
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  • Now I understand...






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    « Reply #61 on: April 23, 2016, 10:14:33 PM »
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  • The Voris Timeline:

    1981-1991 Slept around with men and women. Hasn't ruled out animals.

    1991-2001 "Confused" about sɛҳuąƖity, but sure enough to live with gαy men. Confused about how to split the rent probably.

    2001-2004 Goes to Novus Ordo Mass but still sinning. Not yet abhoring sins against God and his own body.

    2004-2006 Stops having sex with men after his mother's death. Decides to start his own traditionalist Catholic show and website complete with logo and tag line and thousands of dollars in equipment.. in Detroit.

    2006-2013 Falsely presents himself as a formerly lukewarm Catholic, who just wants to defend the traditional Faith now.

    -Snuggles up to every traditionalist personality he can get his hands on, culminating in his appearance at the 2013 Catholic Identity Conference. http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/09/catholic-identity-conference-2013.html#more

    2013-2016 Five months after the 2013 conference and seven months ahead of the 2014 Synod of the Family, he makes an about face and slams all of his previous trad buds from the previous years. All the original links to CMTV's website are dead, but you can be assured it happened! Some reactions to it: http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/1264-pay-no-attention-to-the-man-behind-the-vortex


    -Gets exclusive access to Q&A sessions at the Vatican during the 2014 synod.

    -Also happens to get access to Archbishop Dolan about the gαy parade on St. Patrick's day 2015.  

    2016- Two weeks after Amoris Laetitia is released, he comes out as a former ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ yet currently repentant man in order to circuмvent the actions of Fr. Nicholas  and the Archdiocese of New York. Catholics and bloggers everywhere call him courageous and that his past doesn't matter!  

    Truth: He was a planted time-bomb within the traditionalist community and is most likely a very active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ whose services are in high demand from the satanic gαy-sex cult currently operating under the guise of the Catholic Church. That's why you'll never see any of his ex-boyfriends come forward. Ever wondered how traditionalists must seem to the Satanic Elite? Here is their facsimile of one!

    A quick mention about who he's been known to associate with.

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    Voris was equally surprised by evidence showing that his staff apologist and program host Simon Rafe – who is the webmaster at St. Michael's Media, and co-authored its “Saint Michael's Basic Training” apologetics course – had also written the “adult” role-playing game “Castle Dracula,” and fan-fiction depicting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Star Wars universe. Per cna



    Ok, let's form a checklist of deviant individuals from St. Michael's Media:

    1. Anthony "Tridentine" Perlas, pornographer.
    2. Simon Rafe
    3. Michael Voris

    Feel free to add as more are revealed!

    Fortuna finem habet.


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    « Reply #62 on: April 23, 2016, 10:21:48 PM »
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  • That makes perfect sense.
    So the 1997 "Double Trouble" "video" most probably is the you-can't-leave-the-pact contract.
    The mother company: Concept Communication, LLC  began in 1997.
    This is beginning to make a lot more sense now.
    He's still deep in it. No pun intended.

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    « Reply #63 on: April 23, 2016, 10:23:56 PM »
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    That makes perfect sense.
    So the 1997 "Double Trouble" "video" most probably is the you-can't-leave-the-pact contract.
    The mother company: Concept Communication, LLC  began in 1997.
    This is beginning to make a lot more sense now.
    He's still deep in it. No pun intended.


    We should ask Dolan, he might still have a copy.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #64 on: April 23, 2016, 10:34:01 PM »
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    But, it is really quite a risk and courageous to come out and admit that truth on his part, and I think he is owed some credit for that.


    Fell for it. But so did Louie Verrechio:

    https://akacatholic.com/michael-voris-beating-the-devil-to-the-punch/

    If having a live-in boyfriend and engaging in ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sins for over 20 years is the new lukewarm, then I guess Amoris Laetitia has had more of an effect on us than I thought!

    Why do people assume he's telling the truth about giving up that "lifestyle"? He lied about being a regular Joe-Novus-Ordo Catholic, he lied about being a traditional Catholic, and the timing of his public stances are aligned with major actions from the Vatican.

    So here's the real question: how deeply entrenched is the "gαy lobby" satanic sex cult? Provided below is a choice article that hardly anyone noticed during the Pope Benedict Era.

    http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2072613,00.html?xid=rss-world

    Here are a few excerpts:
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    Priest Sex-Abuse Case Hits Church of Pope's Adviser
    By Alessandra Pieracci and Giacomo Galeazzi / La Stampa / Worldcrunch Thursday, May 19, 2011

    (GENOA) — The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests.

    Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges. Investigators say that in tapped mobile-phone conversations, Seppia asked a Moroccan drug dealer to arrange sɛҳuąƖ encounters with young and vulnerable boys. "I do not want 16-year-old boys but younger. Fourteen-year-olds are O.K. Look for needy boys who have family issues," he allegedly said. Genoa Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco, who is the head of the Italian Bishops Conference, had been working with Benedict to establish a tough new worldwide policy, released this week, on how bishops should handle accusations of priestly sex abuse.

    ...

    According to investigators, Seppia told a friend — a former seminarian and barman who is currently under investigation — that the town's malls were the best places to entice minors. In tapped phone conversations the two cursed and swore against God. The priest is charged with having attempted to kiss and touch an underage altar boy and of having exchanged cocaine for sɛҳuąƖ intercourse with boys over 18.

    ...

    The investigation is ongoing.


    And what happened to this filthy beast? Nine years in prison. He's served 4 up to now.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-05/04/c_131567145.htm

    I will supply the next piece of info as the Dailymail is a notoriously shameless rag, but so far it's one of the only outlets covering the story after a year!

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    Judge Bossi dismissed his apologies and sentenced him to four years, two months and twenty days for the sex abuse and attempted child prostitution charges and five years and four months for the drug offences, making a total of nine and a half years. He was also fined €28,000 (£22,700).


    Be warned before clicking the link, the side stories are filled with impure garbage.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139479/Ricardo-Seppia-Paedophile-priest-jailed-abusing-altar-boys-supplying-cocaine.html


    Which means if this man hadn't had any drug charges, he'd be a free man as we speak! They actually gave him more time for drugs than going after psychologically damaged children. This man needs to be put to death.
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    « Reply #65 on: April 23, 2016, 10:58:07 PM »
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    From Wiki:

    Voris attended the University of Notre Dame, graduating in 1983 with a degree in communications with a focus on history in politics. He also attended two years of seminary training at St. Joseph's Seminary in New York during the 1980s.[3] Between 1983 and 1986 he became a television anchor, producer and reporter for various CBS affiliates in New York, Albany, Duluth and Cheyenne.[4] In 1989 he became a news reporter and producer for a Fox affiliate in Detroit, where he won four Emmy Awards for production between 1992 and 1996.[4]

    In 1997 he began operation of an independent television production company called Concept Communication, LLC. This limited liability company was registered by co-owners Gary Michael Voris and John Fitzpatrick Mola with the State of Michigan on July 8, 1997.[5] Shortly thereafter on July 23, 1997, Voris and Mola registered a video with the US Copyright Office titled "Double Trouble".[6] The nature of the content of this video is not known as it does not appear to have been released publicly.



    Double Trouble, 1997

    Double trouble.

    Type of Work:   Motion Picture
    Registration Number / Date:   PA0000859824 / 1997-07-23
    Title:   Double trouble.
    Description:   Videocassette ; 1/2 in.
    Copyright Claimant:   Gary Michael Voris & John Fitzgerald Mola
    Date of Creation:   1997
    Date of Publication:   1997-07-22
    Names:   Voris, Gary Michael
    Mola, John Fitzgerald


    I noticed there is a Ryan Fitzgerald. Must be related to Voris' business partner: John Fitzgerald.

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/author/ryan-fitzgerald

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    « Reply #66 on: April 23, 2016, 11:44:45 PM »
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    The Voris Timeline...


    Why do people assume he's telling the truth about giving up that "lifestyle"? He lied about being a regular Joe-Novus-Ordo Catholic, he lied about being a traditional Catholic, and the timing of his public stances are aligned with major actions from the Vatican.






    Hmmm.  Wow.  Thumbs up to you.  I may yet change my mind on this one.  

    Just goes to show, I'm not an investigator.  Just a reactionary.  


    So, okay.  Devil's advocate.  Let's assume what you're saying about Voris is true.  Can you explain Fr. Nicholson's behavior?

    I'm willing to bet that some new investigative articles about Voris are going to be coming out in coming months.  


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    « Reply #67 on: April 24, 2016, 12:03:16 AM »
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    The Voris Timeline...


    Why do people assume he's telling the truth about giving up that "lifestyle"? He lied about being a regular Joe-Novus-Ordo Catholic, he lied about being a traditional Catholic, and the timing of his public stances are aligned with major actions from the Vatican.






    Hmmm.  Wow.  Thumbs up to you.  I may yet change my mind on this one.  

    Just goes to show, I'm not an investigator.  Just a reactionary.  


    So, okay.  Devil's advocate.  Let's assume what you're saying about Voris is true.  Can you explain Fr. Nicholson's behavior?

    I'm willing to bet that some new investigative articles about Voris are going to be coming out in coming months.  




    It's all good theater. As I recall some people linked Voris' change of attitude back in 2014 to his association with Fr. Nicholson. The way I figure, Nicholson is serving as a smokescreen or just another layer of theater in this whole mess. In the end I don't think he even registers for most people compared to Voris at least, so what he does is only important insofar as it relates to Mr. V. My feeling is that he is completely in on it. Same goes for Dolan.
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    « Reply #68 on: April 24, 2016, 12:05:48 AM »
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    The Voris Timeline:

    1981-1991 Slept around with men and women. Hasn't ruled out animals.

    ...

    Truth: He was a planted time-bomb within the traditionalist community and is most likely a very active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ whose services are in high demand from the satanic gαy-sex cult currently operating under the guise of the Catholic Church. That's why you'll never see any of his ex-boyfriends come forward. Ever wondered how traditionalists must seem to the Satanic Elite? Here is their facsimile of one!



    I think you've got it Croixalist. Voris may have already revealed as such by dropping hints. See this: http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vort-2015-12-03

    Quote from: Gary Michael Voris
    When I was a sophomore at Notre Dame, I met this establishment up close and personal, and believe me, there isn't a thing "nice" about the Church of Nice. Near the end of my sophomore year, I started receiving anonymous letters through campus mail. At first they were innocent enough. I thought that my roommates or other buds were goofing with me. But then they turned dark, laying out sɛҳuąƖ fantasizing with me at the center of it all. I took all this to a priest on campus who advised me to wait out the storm for the rest of the semester since it was almost over. Nothing more happened — until summer school.  

    The priest I had gone to for counsel was away on vacation and sent me a letter admitting that he was the author of all the other letters and cards. I was 19. He was a priest. I was at Notre Dame, where I had wanted to go my entire life, even trying out to be leprechaun. Notre Dame was my world. The Church environment was my world. And this man, in whom I had confided my fears, turned out to be the very man who was the cause of it all.


    I haven't watched any of the Vortex in a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if Voris was already prepping his audience for the big reveal. It goes even further back than last year. Five or six years ago, Voris said in one of his videos that homos are more loved by God than heteros because of their "cross". Assuming he's a plant, one of his goals is likely to change the views of Traditional Catholics in regard to fαɢɢօtry.
    Pray for me, always.

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    « Reply #69 on: April 24, 2016, 12:11:11 AM »
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    Assuming  he's a plant, one of his goals is likely to change the views of Traditional Catholics in regard to fαɢɢօtry.


    But, but, he has been compared to St. Paul, St. Francis, St. Ignatius and St. Augustine! And his mom (RIP), to St. Monica!

    Amoris Laetitia shows mercy to everyone!


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    « Reply #70 on: April 24, 2016, 12:24:25 AM »
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    Assuming  he's a plant, one of his goals is likely to change the views of Traditional Catholics in regard to fαɢɢօtry.


    But, but, he has been compared to St. Paul, St. Francis, St. Ignatius and St. Augustine! And his mom (RIP), to St. Monica!

    Amoris Laetitia shows mercy to everyone!



    You left out King David!

    Don't we Catholics know that Voris has been raised up and anointed lay apologist King by God? How dare we question this man's faith, motives, and sincerity!!
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    « Reply #71 on: April 24, 2016, 12:40:06 AM »
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    I think you've got it Croixalist. Voris may have already revealed as such by dropping hints. See this: http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vort-2015-12-03

    Quote from: Gary Michael Voris
    When I was a sophomore at Notre Dame, I met this establishment up close and personal, and believe me, there isn't a thing "nice" about the Church of Nice. Near the end of my sophomore year, I started receiving anonymous letters through campus mail. At first they were innocent enough. I thought that my roommates or other buds were goofing with me. But then they turned dark, laying out sɛҳuąƖ fantasizing with me at the center of it all. I took all this to a priest on campus who advised me to wait out the storm for the rest of the semester since it was almost over. Nothing more happened — until summer school.  

    The priest I had gone to for counsel was away on vacation and sent me a letter admitting that he was the author of all the other letters and cards. I was 19. He was a priest. I was at Notre Dame, where I had wanted to go my entire life, even trying out to be leprechaun. Notre Dame was my world. The Church environment was my world. And this man, in whom I had confided my fears, turned out to be the very man who was the cause of it all.


    I haven't watched any of the Vortex in a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if Voris was already prepping his audience for the big reveal. It goes even further back than last year. Five or six years ago, Voris said in one of his videos that homos are more loved by God than heteros because of their "cross". Assuming he's a plant, one of his goals is likely to change the views of Traditional Catholics in regard to fαɢɢօtry.


    Yuck. I wonder if that's part of the true story about how he was recruited. I'm not entirely sure he wasn't kidnapped so don't quote me on that!

    If he was being honest, which he isn't, but if he was back when he first started, there would have been zero chance of him being taken seriously by traditionalists. As it happened, he was thoroughly absorbed for about 7 years before he started to show his cards. That's long enough to cause pangs of sympathy even for those of us who used to agree with him on various issues.

    Now that he's playing the repentant gαy victim card, he's virtually invulnerable to traditionalist fire... until you look at the circuмstances that is.

    Lord, set fire to this bundle of sticks!

    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Now that he's playing the repentant gαy victim card, he's virtually invulnerable to traditionalist fire... until you look at the circuмstances that is.


    Hmmm.  I've gotta be honest.  I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt today.  I mean...I've got to be able to believe that someone can come from that kind of a lifestyle and successfully repent.  

    However, I also ask myself: "Laramie, when have you ever seen someone do 'Life' right?  When have you ever seen someone come through and be a true blue successful genuine article?  Once?"

    Croixalist, you got me thinking on this.  Your supposition is possible.   But I'd also like to think Voris' stated repentance is possible.  

    This is not a closed book.  Not for me.
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    Now that he's playing the repentant gαy victim card, he's virtually invulnerable to traditionalist fire... until you look at the circuмstances that is.


    Hmmm.  I've gotta be honest.  I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt today.  I mean...I've got to be able to believe that someone can come from that kind of a lifestyle and successfully repent.  

    However, I also ask myself: "Laramie, when have you ever seen someone do 'Life' right?  When have you ever seen someone come through and be a true blue successful genuine article?  Once?"

    Croixalist, you got me thinking on this.  Your supposition is possible.   But I'd also like to think Voris' stated repentance is possible.  

    This is not a closed book.  Not for me.

    Nor is this case over for Voris.
    This is the tip of the iceBERG. No pun intended.

    It's actually diabolical.

    "It's especially ironic that the SSPX would say that the Novus Ordo Mass is an offense against God when you stop to consider the extremely grave and serious point that every single SSPX priest and bishop is committing a mortal sin when he offers Mass...It's the "Non serviam!" of Satan offering Mass in reparation for his own sin of disobedience."
    -Michael Voris September 16 2015

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/the-vortexoffensive-to-god

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    "It's especially ironic that the SSPX would say that the Novus Ordo Mass is an offense against God when you stop to consider the extremely grave and serious point that every single SSPX priest and bishop is committing a mortal sin when he offers Mass...It's the "Non serviam!" of Satan offering Mass in reparation for his own sin of disobedience."
    -Michael Voris September 16 2015

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/the-vortexoffensive-to-god


    Ah, yes.  I remember this. How horrible that was.  

    But also...just think of how terrible it is that we have to actually formulate and consider these kinds of cօռspιʀαcιҽs.  We must do this.  Not because we're crazy or anything, but because these kinds of deceptions have happened many times before in the past.

    The fact we have to ponder this possibility that Croixalist puts forth is a sad commentary on our times.  



    For me, the situation with this pope and the Society are easily explainable.  Merely look at the prophecy of St. Francis of Assisi, and there you go.  

    I have no doubt that the Vatican would like to reign in the SSPX in order to do to it what it has done to the Franciscans.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle