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ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past coming back to haunt Voris
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2016, 02:34:49 AM »
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    Now that he's playing the repentant gαy victim card, he's virtually invulnerable to traditionalist fire... until you look at the circuмstances that is.


    Hmmm.  I've gotta be honest.  I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt today.  I mean...I've got to be able to believe that someone can come from that kind of a lifestyle and successfully repent.  

    However, I also ask myself: "Laramie, when have you ever seen someone do 'Life' right?  When have you ever seen someone come through and be a true blue successful genuine article?  Once?"

    Croixalist, you got me thinking on this.  Your supposition is possible.   But I'd also like to think Voris' stated repentance is possible.  

    This is not a closed book.  Not for me.


    You keep reading in the dark like that and you'll go blind.

    It doesn't matter how many times he's lied before, only that he promises that he's telling the truth now. Am I right? I'm not saying a man cannot come back from being an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, I'm saying that Voris is an undisputed liar and a severe liability for tradition.

    Imagine if he really were converted from being "gαy" after 20 or so years, wouldn't that be the biggest story of his life? What would his prayerlife be like? How would he deal with the inevitable demonic attacks, temptations, and plain old memories plaguing his waking hours? What saints did he pray to? Tell me he lost all his gαy friends and gained all new traditional Catholic ones over 2 years! Such an individual might truly have been helpful in that capacity, but common sense says they'd have absolutely no place as a full time Catholic news presenter/commentator. He was only 4 years removed from the height of the publicized Church sex scandals and two years away from what must have been a greater miracle than St. Augustine's conversion!

    None of what he claims for himself is falsifiable. Is there even a picture of him out there that's older than 2006?

    Here's a quick quiz:

    gαy man gone Catholic or gαy man gone clubbing?



    Open shirt down to mid chest, no t-shirt. Oozing repentance! St. Benedict approves?
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    « Reply #76 on: April 24, 2016, 03:13:21 AM »
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    Lord, set fire to this bundle of sticks!


    Bundle of sticks.   :roll-laugh1:


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    « Reply #77 on: April 24, 2016, 03:21:50 AM »
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  • Question 2:

    Which one of these men worked under Voris and produces new-agey pics of women wearing church veils as well as assorted pornographic images?

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    « Reply #78 on: April 24, 2016, 03:34:09 AM »
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  • Question 3: Can you spot the current CMTV contributor who in 2011 was the star of this particular story?

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    As recently as August 15, the website batcave.co.uk hosted the text of “Castle Dracula: A Tunnels & Trolls Solo Adventure by Simon Rafe.” Signed and dated “Simon 'The Darknight' Rafe, Baptism of Our Lord, 2010,” the work contains a paragraph vividly describing a sɛҳuąƖ encounter with “a beautiful Elven woman” revealed to be “Asrel, the goddess of love, life, health, healing, beauty and sex.”

    Rafe gives the player a series of options in the scenario: “If you would like strength and vitality, turn to 70. If you would like health and life, turn to 383. If you would like true love, turn to 467. If you would like sex appeal, turn to 203. If you would like sɛҳuąƖ potency, turn to 366. If you would like make love to the goddess (even if you are female - Asrel is an equal-opportunity lover!), turn to 11.”


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    « Reply #79 on: April 24, 2016, 04:22:43 AM »
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    You keep reading in the dark like that and you'll go blind.

    It doesn't matter how many times he's lied before, only that he promises that he's telling the truth now. Am I right? I'm not saying a man cannot come back from being an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, I'm saying that Voris is an undisputed liar and a severe liability for tradition.


    Okay, Croixalist, listen up.  Here's what I want you to do.  

    My blog post (the one that's on page 1 of this thread) is generating high traffic right now.  I want you to go on there, to that post, and I want you to post what you're stating right here on Cathinfo.  

    This will generate the attention of r-selected types--the go-along-get-along Catholics who are trapped in confirmation bias.  They will see what you have to say, and you will be sharing this message with a lot of people out there.  Do this right away.  

    It is possible that we might see someone else come along with these suspicions, and that they've been waiting to hear it from someone else.  Or, perhaps someone will come along and help you to flush out your thoughts on this matter.  Either way, I'd like to see how what you say here stands up to a lot of non-Cathinfo traffic.  

    In fact, direct people to this very thread, and we can perhaps pull some new traffic to Cathinfo this week.  I'm sure Matthew would like that.

    Perhaps sharing this with a larger audience will spark something unexpected?  Just a thought.  But I encourage you to give it a try.  

    I'd start a new post about this topic, but the main viral traffic is going to this specific post that I've already put out there.

    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2016/04/i-support-michael-voris-today.html


    In the meantime--again--I'm open to more discussion about this.  That Voris is some kind of a gαy shill who's playing Traditionalists this entire time.  If I see more of this kind of talk, I will be further intrigued and compelled to distrust him.  In which case, I'll spread the word if that happens.

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    « Reply #80 on: April 24, 2016, 04:26:47 AM »
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    Question 2:

    Which one of these men worked under Voris and produces new-agey pics of women wearing church veils as well as assorted pornographic images?



    Whoah, crap!  It's that guy that Steve Skojec denounced.  

    http://www.onepeterfive.com/a-warning-about-the-so-called-latin-mass-society/

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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #81 on: April 24, 2016, 05:35:03 AM »
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  • Vortex indeed.

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    « Reply #82 on: April 24, 2016, 06:39:09 AM »
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    Question 3: Can you spot the current CMTV contributor who in 2011 was the star of this particular story?


    No, can you point him out for me?

    Just kidding.  Does this mean all mainstream Catholic talking heads are compromised?


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    « Reply #83 on: April 24, 2016, 06:50:04 AM »
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    Question 3: Can you spot the current CMTV contributor who in 2011 was the star of this particular story?

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    As recently as August 15, the website batcave.co.uk hosted the text of “Castle Dracula: A Tunnels & Trolls Solo Adventure by Simon Rafe.” Signed and dated “Simon 'The Darknight' Rafe, Baptism of Our Lord, 2010,” the work contains a paragraph vividly describing a sɛҳuąƖ encounter with “a beautiful Elven woman” revealed to be “Asrel, the goddess of love, life, health, healing, beauty and sex.”

    Rafe gives the player a series of options in the scenario: “If you would like strength and vitality, turn to 70. If you would like health and life, turn to 383. If you would like true love, turn to 467. If you would like sex appeal, turn to 203. If you would like sɛҳuąƖ potency, turn to 366. If you would like make love to the goddess (even if you are female - Asrel is an equal-opportunity lover!), turn to 11.”





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    "Voris was equally surprised by evidence showing that his staff apologist and program host Simon Rafe – who is the webmaster at St. Michael's Media, and co-authored its “Saint Michael's Basic Training” apologetics course – had also written the “adult” role-playing game “Castle Dracula,” and fan-fiction depicting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Star Wars universe." Per cna
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    CREEPY

    And yet he remains on staff.

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    « Reply #84 on: April 24, 2016, 06:56:10 AM »
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    St. Michael's Media

    “Lord Jesus, use us to save souls, keep us always faithful to Your commandments, and
    never let me be parted from you.”

    Saint Michael’s Media is an effort to bring the new evangelization and the lay apostolate to the new media, and to embody the spiritual works of mercy of instructing the ignorant, admonishing the sinner, and  teaching the Catholic faith.  Our work is dedicated to saving our own souls by making ourselves available to Our Blessed Lord to be used to help save other souls. It is in this spirit that we want to share our apostolic work with young men (18-25 years of age, with minimum of a high school degree) still discerning how they might best serve Christ and His Church, as they seek to respond to the call of the Holy Spirit in their lives (emphasis on, but not limited to, former seminarians and those currently discerning).

    So, we are embarking on a new endeavor we call PAUSE: a twelve-month program, structured roughly around a traditional academic calendar in which candidates learn deeply about the Catholic Faith by taking a “pause” from their current life circuмstances and come to pray/discern/study/work/live with other like-minded individuals who desire to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit, and how best to serve the Church.

    The program is directed toward young men who feel a deep desire to be at the service of the Church in this current time of Her great need, but who may not have had the opportunity to discern exactly how they can best do this, whether through a religious vocation, a vocation to marriage, or a dedication to the life of lay consecrated celibacy.

    This “pause” provides an opportunity for such reflection while also spending considerable time in study of the Faith, learning and doing the work of television production at the service of the Church, and most importantly, developing an established habit of prayer, both communal and private.  All of this will be done while living together in a house of discernment.

    PRAYER
    Paramount in any discernment for a life in service to the Church is prayer.  With an emphasis on frequent Mass, daily public recitation of the Divine Office, the Rosary, Angelus, mental prayer, Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, spiritual direction, and days of reflection, discerners will encounter the art of “communication” with Our Lord.  They will take what they have received in contemplation and distribute the fruits in media productions of St. Michael’s Media.  Privately, traditional spiritual readings drawn from the Saints, Fathers, and Doctors of the Church will also be regular.

    MATURITY
    The Holy Spirit can only be heard in the ear that is trained and tested.  Committing to one year of study, prayer, common life, and an intense sacramental life, the discerner will mature. He will obtain an invaluable year of experience working in and for the good of the Church.

    STUDY
    The current generation is suffering greatly from a lack of effectual catechesis and apologetics, former mainstays of the Faith.  An integral part of the life of Faith is study and reflection. One cannot love what one does not know. With the goal of deepening love for the Church, and thereby Our Blessed Lord, catechesis and apologetics based on time-proven traditional sources such as Scripture, the Catechism, Church docuмents, and councils will be daily aspects of life.

    SPIRITUAL WORK
    In response to the Holy Father’s urgent and repeated calls for a New Evangelization,* and his desire that the tools of modern social communications be employed to their fullest, St. Michael’s Media has dedicated itself to a rigorous defense and promotion of the Holy Catholic Faith using precisely these means. All candidates will be very exposed to this work and undergo training for full incorporation into the daily public work in which we are engaged.

    [*In his call for a New Evangelization, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI states that “we are searching for . . . a new evangelization, capable of being heard by that world that does not find access to 'classic' evangelization. . . . This is why we are obliged to look for new ways of bringing the Gospel to all.” Modern social communications are “marvels of technology which God has destined human genius to discover” (Inter Mirifica) and can be used for great good as well as great evil.]

    LIVING
    Because the work of discernment is accomplished both privately and in community, all candidates will live in the same house, which will be provided in exchange for their commitment to work. All other expenses incurred during the year are the responsibility of the candidate.

    It is anticipated that transportation is the responsibility of the candidate, as well as car insurance and health insurance.  

    [It is very important to consider at this point that the PAUSE program, while having a very heavy work aspect to it, is not primarily a job for a year.  It is an opportunity to discern how one can best spend his life in service to the Church.]
     
    Discerners will live in close contact with laymen who have dedicated themselves to apostolic celibacy at the service of the apostolate and at the service of Holy Mother Church.  

    PRIESTLY ASSISTANCE
    While the program is a lay initiative, discerners will be able to draw upon the pastoral care of priests who understand the Church's current struggles and are completely in conformity and juridical unity with the Roman Pontiff.   These priests will be deeply involved and available for spiritual guidance and direction, Mass, and confession. Saint Michael’s Media is very committed to a holy priesthood and abundantly hopes many candidates will recognize a vocation to the priesthood in their own circuмstances.

    THE CANDIDATE
    Each candidate will be given the tools to grow in both love and understanding of his faith through means of prayer, study, work, and community life.  The results for each participant will be determined by his personal motivation, beginning with a strong desire to learn and discern.

    Requirements for well-suited candidates include:

    a strong willingness to invest time and explore one's current life circuмstances
    a recognition that the Church needs exceptional commitments in these exceptional times
    a strong desire to engage in the work of the New Evangelization
    an expressed interest in media production, research, or public relations
    an eagerness to embrace the joys and challenges of communal life

    Applications will open Holy Week 2015 and will close Friday, June 5, 2015.

    Application Process:
    Phase I:
    Initial online application/Inquiry (basic info/demographics/questionnaire)
    Objective Statement / Submission of a simple video (Why am I interested? (100 words; 2 minutes)



    Could this be used to screen out for something else?


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    « Reply #85 on: April 24, 2016, 06:57:51 AM »
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  • And yet no season or opportunities for women?  


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    « Reply #86 on: April 24, 2016, 07:00:07 AM »
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    Question 3: Can you spot the current CMTV contributor who in 2011 was the star of this particular story?

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    As recently as August 15, the website batcave.co.uk hosted the text of “Castle Dracula: A Tunnels & Trolls Solo Adventure by Simon Rafe.” Signed and dated “Simon 'The Darknight' Rafe, Baptism of Our Lord, 2010,” the work contains a paragraph vividly describing a sɛҳuąƖ encounter with “a beautiful Elven woman” revealed to be “Asrel, the goddess of love, life, health, healing, beauty and sex.”

    Rafe gives the player a series of options in the scenario: “If you would like strength and vitality, turn to 70. If you would like health and life, turn to 383. If you would like true love, turn to 467. If you would like sex appeal, turn to 203. If you would like sɛҳuąƖ potency, turn to 366. If you would like make love to the goddess (even if you are female - Asrel is an equal-opportunity lover!), turn to 11.”





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    "Voris was equally surprised by evidence showing that his staff apologist and program host Simon Rafe – who is the webmaster at St. Michael's Media, and co-authored its “Saint Michael's Basic Training” apologetics course – had also written the “adult” role-playing game “Castle Dracula,” and fan-fiction depicting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Star Wars universe." Per cna
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    CREEPY

    And yet he remains on staff.



    Creepy and disgusting.  

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    « Reply #87 on: April 24, 2016, 07:03:21 AM »
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    Question 3: Can you spot the current CMTV contributor who in 2011 was the star of this particular story?

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    As recently as August 15, the website batcave.co.uk hosted the text of “Castle Dracula: A Tunnels & Trolls Solo Adventure by Simon Rafe.” Signed and dated “Simon 'The Darknight' Rafe, Baptism of Our Lord, 2010,” the work contains a paragraph vividly describing a sɛҳuąƖ encounter with “a beautiful Elven woman” revealed to be “Asrel, the goddess of love, life, health, healing, beauty and sex.”

    Rafe gives the player a series of options in the scenario: “If you would like strength and vitality, turn to 70. If you would like health and life, turn to 383. If you would like true love, turn to 467. If you would like sex appeal, turn to 203. If you would like sɛҳuąƖ potency, turn to 366. If you would like make love to the goddess (even if you are female - Asrel is an equal-opportunity lover!), turn to 11.”





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    "Voris was equally surprised by evidence showing that his staff apologist and program host Simon Rafe – who is the webmaster at St. Michael's Media, and co-authored its “Saint Michael's Basic Training” apologetics course – had also written the “adult” role-playing game “Castle Dracula,” and fan-fiction depicting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Star Wars universe." Per cna
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    CREEPY

    And yet he remains on staff.



    Creepy and disgusting.  

    This sounds like Wicca.

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    « Reply #88 on: April 24, 2016, 07:08:54 AM »
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    Question 2:

    Which one of these men worked under Voris and produces new-agey pics of women wearing church veils as well as assorted pornographic images?



    Whoah, crap!  It's that guy that Steve Skojec denounced.  

    http://www.onepeterfive.com/a-warning-about-the-so-called-latin-mass-society/



    I think croixalist is right.

    There is another thing.  On many Catholic sites there appears gαy activist trolls.  I haven't seen much of that on churchmilitant.

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    « Reply #89 on: April 24, 2016, 07:14:04 AM »
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  • They don't like saying anything against Pope.  And yet they never went in person to report when the Pope came to America. They had video from devil worship dance party.

    They have a studio chapel but rarely if ever have televised Mass.