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ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past coming back to haunt Voris
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2016, 07:22:36 PM »
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    I think that Croixalist has an argument, and I am tempted to agree with him.  But, I just don't know enough about voris' public history to judge.  I would have to watch his suspect anti tradition/truth episodes to try to get a read on him.  Does anyone have any recommendations?


    "Tempted" is an apt choice of words and I'm sharing those feelings. Obviously this was an "elephant in the room" for him. Many of his viewers will feel he should have shared an idea of this even though he's been repentant but especially because snippets of his backstory and father have been shared along the way.

    His past is not relevant but apparently is thus causing a current scandal and CMtv shutting down for the week. So many of the problems in the church have been caused by sodomy. He has succuмbed to this vice and left it. Proponents of sodomy say you can never leave it, only hide and accept it. He could have been a beacon of hope. Given perspective of how to undo the damage rather than expose and complain.

     :facepalm:

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    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past coming back to haunt Voris
    « Reply #31 on: April 22, 2016, 10:04:30 PM »
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    Question?  Is Voris Indult? Is he of a dioceses?  Is his confession with or without Precious Blood?

    Maybe he is out of the closet, for the "year of mercy"?  Wow! what a great idea!


    Watch how many will fall over themselves to protect him now that he claims he's a "repentant". They will refuse to see the bigger picture here.

    Quote from: Voris
    I have never made a secret that my life prior to my reversion was extremely sinful.


    Extreme? That wasn't his line when he first arrived on the scene. Another interesting difference here is that he used to include his brother's death in his "reversion." No mention of him in his new revised standard edition story!

    Quote from: Wikipedia
    Voris cites the death of his brother from a heart attack in 2003, followed by his mother dying from stomach cancer in 2004 as the events that moved him to go from being "a lukewarm * Catholic, someone who usually just went through the motions at church" to an "aggressive global advocate for conservative Catholics... on a burning mission to save Catholicism and America by trying to warn the public about what he sees as a decline of morality in society."


    *Flaming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ! Just going through the motions here!

    He's a liar and he will continue to lie as long as people give him a stage.

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    Whatever the matter, I will now reveal that for most of my years in my thirties, confused about my own sɛҳuąƖity, I lived a life of live-in relationships with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ men. From the outside, I lived the lifestyle and contributed to scandal in addition to the sɛҳuąƖ sins. On the inside, I was deeply conflicted about all of it. In a large portion of my twenties, I also had frequent sɛҳuąƖ liaisons with both adult men and adult women.

    These are the sins of my past life in this area which are all now publicly admitted and owned by me. That was before my reversion to the Faith.

    Since my reversion, I abhor all these sins, especially in the world of the many many other sins I have committed having nothing to do with sɛҳuąƖity. I gave in to deep pains from my youth by seeking solace in lust, and in the process, surrendered my masculinity.

    Many of you know the story of my mother's prayers and sacrifices and pleading to God on my behalf that I give up my sinful life and return home to the Church. As a last resort, she prayed to be given whatever suffering needed so that I would be granted sufficient grace to revert. It was shortly after that prayer that her very early stage stomach cancer was detected, which she died from a few years later.

    During the last year of her life, I began to change by beginning to frequent the sacraments more often. When my mom died, I pledged at her coffin that I would change. I said, "Mom, what you went through for me, you will not have gone through in vain." I returned fully and completely to the Faith and close to two years later, I began this apostolate.


    Working off the trusty old St. Augustine template of converted sinner with saintly mother. Notice the lack of introspection or thought process here. He states his mother prayed for him and died, then he just goes back to the Church and the Faith "completely"... all while still attending NO masses of course!

    Remember that it was only since his miraculous "reversion" and not before, did he abhor those sins. I don't think this even begins to cover it for a man so completely under the sway of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle through his entire young adult life; he would have been around 44 years old(!) at the time of his mother's death.

    Nope, all of this is a ruse to keep him in the mix toward the ongoing acceptance of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.


     



    To this it should be added that two years! He said two years after repenting he became a conservative celebrity. He had barely even stepped out of that lifestyle and suddenly he is an expert on Catholicsm. No way Jose!


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    « Reply #32 on: April 23, 2016, 07:28:11 AM »
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  • Would he have been allowed to rise to fame so quickly if he weren't a sod?  I believe the answer is a resounding NO.

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    « Reply #33 on: April 23, 2016, 07:36:07 AM »
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  • He's probably going to act like this is behind him and continue to do the same ol same ol.

    But I'm done with him.

    It's scandal and deception. I want no part of it.

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    « Reply #34 on: April 23, 2016, 08:30:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
    My thoughts revolve around why you chose to publish another's confessed sins anonymously.


    I agree with you Nadir.   We are all sinners making reparations for our past sins.  
    I thought  so because he is now living a celibate life instead of getting married to a woman.  And the pink ties.
    He also would defend Courage.  It was sad that his spiritual director ditched him when he really needed him.   We need to pray for Michael Voris.


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    « Reply #35 on: April 23, 2016, 10:23:14 AM »
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  • I would like to first issue a disclaimer to say I am not a fan of Voris, or his attacks on Traditionalists, or his indefensible position on Bergoglio, etc.

    However, I will say that everything he wrote regarding his past life and his reversion to the Faith is very beautiful. His mother paid a great price in her suffering and sacrifice for him.

    I had long suspected he may be a closeted ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ as something appeared "off" to me in certain of his mannerisms and dress that are indicative of that lifestyle.


    But, it is really quite a risk and courageous to come out and admit that truth on his part, and I think he is owed some credit for that.

    We should pray for him and pray for his continued perserverance in his battle with that horrible vice.

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    « Reply #36 on: April 23, 2016, 10:43:50 AM »
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    Fr Nicholson behaves true to character. A commenter on his nasty response to the passing of Fr Kramer called him a 'disgrace to the priesthood' for implying Fr Kramer was in Hell. He was at one point so closely associated with CMTV that he got in trouble over it.

    I think there's something other than this revelation behind the break. Given his response to the death of Fr Kramer and his silly, lisping squeaky voiced Youtube videos, he cannot be taken seriously. His lisp is the biggest gαy stereotype in existence, but to keep to reality, Fr Nicholson has shown himself to be deeply petty, which in any man is unmanly, but is particularly unbecoming in a priest.



    I wonder if Fr. Nicholson himself is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and is worried Voris will start naming names, since he would clearly be aware of which priests are gαy.

    Then again, there are so, so MANY gαy priests in the Novus Ordo, you almost have to start from a positioning of assuming they are gαy.

    In TradCatKnight's post here, his caption says "Birds of a feather flock together" but maybe the kind of "birds" they were wasn't really about heresy so much as it was about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

    http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/09/fr-paul-nicholson-cowardly-modernist.html

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    « Reply #37 on: April 23, 2016, 12:54:49 PM »
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  • Father Kramer is dead?


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    « Reply #38 on: April 23, 2016, 12:57:23 PM »
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  • Fr Nicholson is very flamboyant and is starting over in southbend. Indiana.  
    If he is a missionary priest from Canada, why doesn't he go back.  

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    « Reply #39 on: April 23, 2016, 01:14:46 PM »
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    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past coming back to haunt Voris
    « Reply #40 on: April 23, 2016, 01:18:18 PM »
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  • Per st michaels media:  "so with that in mind, in a desire to keep potential and foreseeable problems to a minimum, we think it best to keep the number low as well as restricted to a single gender.  This makes potential problem areas more manageable.

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    « Reply #41 on: April 23, 2016, 01:30:02 PM »
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  • Wouldn't that be temptation?

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    « Reply #42 on: April 23, 2016, 01:30:21 PM »
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    Would he have been allowed to rise to fame so quickly if he weren't a sod?  I believe the answer is a resounding NO.


    I wonder if the sodomite network helped him. The repentant sodomite is common genre, and I'm sure a lot admire his acting.

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    « Reply #43 on: April 23, 2016, 01:32:38 PM »
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  • Why so many lesbians and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in the Church?

    Year of Mercy for the Church by excommunicating all of the sodomists, liars, theives.

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    « Reply #44 on: April 23, 2016, 01:35:35 PM »
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  • I look at many newly converted "Catholics" and they are making money by selling books and giving talks for money.