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Re: Historical marriage age for men
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2025, 12:15:01 PM »
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  • But if a man gets married later it is always better.
    Are you ok? 

    Keep telling yourself that as your prospects slip away. Or try telling that to men who got married in their early 20’s and have several kids by the time they are 30 because they had their act together. There are MANY successful marriages where the man married young. If he isn’t financially capable that’s a great reason not to marry, but being older is not always better. 

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    « Reply #46 on: July 24, 2025, 05:48:02 AM »
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  • Are you ok?

    Keep telling yourself that as your prospects slip away. Or try telling that to men who got married in their early 20’s and have several kids by the time they are 30 because they had their act together. There are MANY successful marriages where the man married young. If he isn’t financially capable that’s a great reason not to marry, but being older is not always better.

    Yes sorry. I forgot. What society says is always right and better. And worldly minded trads are always right. Where were my manners!

    I must tell myself over and over, : Wisdom is useless. Inferior
    Wisdom is useless: Inferior
    Wisdom is useless: inferior...


    Am I doing better now mommy?


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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #47 on: July 24, 2025, 07:39:47 AM »
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  • Are you ok?

    Keep telling yourself that as your prospects slip away. Or try telling that to men who got married in their early 20’s and have several kids by the time they are 30 because they had their act together. There are MANY successful marriages where the man married young. If he isn’t financially capable that’s a great reason not to marry, but being older is not always better.
    There is nothing "wrong" with marrying early. I know a FEW marriages where the man married under 22, and they had/have a good marriage/family life. I can 100 percent guarantee you though.... that young [CATHOLIC] man that got married early had resources from his parents/or someone else who helped them. (which is great)... but MOST PEOPLE DON"T HAVE THIS OPTION OR FORUNTATE FAMILIAL CIRUMSTANCE.

    In this day and age, it's not prudent to really get married early as a man. I personally don't think it ever was, at any time. In the past, men married younger, sure, but not much younger. Men were hardened or forced into adulthood earlier as a collective.

    The environmental factors today have caused men to peak way later in life. Not our fault, that's just the evil world we live in. Can't step into the ring if you're not ready, and you're taking a risk if doing so. Marriage takes a lot of maturity from the husband. ALOT

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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #48 on: July 24, 2025, 08:27:11 AM »
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  • There is nothing "wrong" with marrying early. I know a FEW marriages where the man married under 22, and they had/have a good marriage/family life. I can 100 percent guarantee you though.... that young [CATHOLIC] man that got married early had resources from his parents/or someone else who helped them. (which is great)... but MOST PEOPLE DON"T HAVE THIS OPTION OR FORUNTATE FAMILIAL CIRUMSTANCE.

    In this day and age, it's not prudent to really get married early as a man. I personally don't think it ever was, at any time. In the past, men married younger, sure, but not much younger. Men were hardened or forced into adulthood earlier as a collective.

    The environmental factors today have caused men to peak way later in life. Not our fault, that's just the evil world we live in. Can't step into the ring if you're not ready, and you're taking a risk if doing so. Marriage takes a lot of maturity from the husband. ALOT
    How are modern men supposed to mature unless they are given responsibilities? It seems like a lot of people need to start having families before they can mature. Some people are like this, you need to throw them into the water for them to learn to swim or even care about swimming, others will drown though.

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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #49 on: July 24, 2025, 08:33:09 AM »
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  •  It seems like a lot of people need to start having families before they can mature.
    The MAN needs to be mature. The WOMAN needs to follow the man's lead. And be subject to him.

    Sure, they both will gain experience with certain things with a family, but when my daughters get of age to marry, if he's not "mature" already, he's not getting my blessing. Period. 


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    « Reply #50 on: July 24, 2025, 09:11:10 AM »
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  • The MAN needs to be mature. The WOMAN needs to follow the man's lead. And be subject to him.

    Sure, they both will gain experience with certain things with a family, but when my daughters get of age to marry, if he's not "mature" already, he's not getting my blessing. Period.
    How do you know if a man is mature? People act differently in public and around certain others than in private and around certain others.

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    « Reply #51 on: July 24, 2025, 09:12:48 AM »
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  • The MAN needs to be mature. The WOMAN needs to follow the man's lead. And be subject to him.

    Sure, they both will gain experience with certain things with a family, but when my daughters get of age to marry, if he's not "mature" already, he's not getting my blessing. Period.
    Also what do you consider the age of marriage for Men and woman?

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    « Reply #52 on: July 24, 2025, 09:15:52 AM »
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  • The MAN needs to be mature. The WOMAN needs to follow the man's lead. And be subject to him.

    Sure, they both will gain experience with certain things with a family, but when my daughters get of age to marry, if he's not "mature" already, he's not getting my blessing. Period.
    I'm going to repost this from the other thread


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    Love requires sacrifice. Men sacrifice a lot when they become the primary breadwinner of a family. They dutifully clock in at a job they may not particularly like and work more hours than they may like to for +30 years because other people are depending on them.
    Men mature when they have someone depending on them. The modern world not only makes this very difficult but it has also made it near hopeless for many men since most women are worthy of marriage.



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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #53 on: July 24, 2025, 09:19:46 AM »
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  • How do you know if a man is mature? People act differently in public and around certain others than in private and around certain others.
    When I say "mature", I mean bottom line maturity. A man that sticks hard to his values and convictions. (He isn't wishy washy). He can back up what he says. A big one, is how kind is he? Is he just "nice guy", or does he CARE ABOUT OTHERS.

    We all have different personalities, quirks, sense of humor. Being a goofball sometimes doesn't make me immature. Knowing social cues, like, when to leave, how to greet, how to be polite, showing acts of kindness, not being OBTUSE, etc. 

    What is his job situation, practical thinking patterns, spiritual obligations, etc. You can tell these things within 3 months of knowing him. Intuition is a strong attribute God gave us to determine these things.

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    « Reply #54 on: July 24, 2025, 10:10:29 AM »
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  • How do you know if a man is mature? People act differently in public and around certain others than in private and around certain others.
    You cant have absolute knowledge of anyone, not even yourself!
    Women should consult their fathers first.
    If he is a Godless pagan, then she should consult at least one resistance priest who knows the man. Maybe two even. 
    If he has a job, says his prayers, knows his Faith, then she should take the opportunity God gave her, because some other girl sure will!

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    « Reply #55 on: July 24, 2025, 10:29:27 AM »
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  • You cant have absolute knowledge of anyone, not even yourself!
    Women should consult their fathers first.
    If he is a Godless pagan, then she should consult at least one resistance priest who knows the man. Maybe two even.
    If he has a job, says his prayers, knows his Faith, then she should take the opportunity God gave her, because some other girl sure will!
    If he's not handsome enough or looks too old she may believe she has better options and won't want to "settle". And if she does she may become bitter and resentful and potentially commit adultery.


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    « Reply #56 on: July 24, 2025, 10:32:18 AM »
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  • When I say "mature", I mean bottom line maturity. A man that sticks hard to his values and convictions. (He isn't wishy washy). He can back up what he says. A big one, is how kind is he? Is he just "nice guy", or does he CARE ABOUT OTHERS.

    We all have different personalities, quirks, sense of humor. Being a goofball sometimes doesn't make me immature. Knowing social cues, like, when to leave, how to greet, how to be polite, showing acts of kindness, not being OBTUSE, etc.

    What is his job situation, practical thinking patterns, spiritual obligations, etc. You can tell these things within 3 months of knowing him. Intuition is a strong attribute God gave us to determine these things.
    What if they have poor social skills due to being a loner their whole life or autism? Or due to covid isolation?

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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #57 on: July 24, 2025, 10:36:14 AM »
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  • If he's not handsome enough or looks too old she may believe she has better options and won't want to "settle". And if she does she may become bitter and resentful and potentially commit adultery.
    I don't think you have to be a 25 year old brad Pitt to land a Catholic woman to marry, but jeepers guys, get in at least decent shape, and take care of your dental hygiene.

    Work out. Don't have to be a rat but be marketable. We all care about looks like everyone else, quit the denial. 

    Oh, and have a little charisma and good decorum. Parents should be passing this stuff on to their sons when they get to an appropriate age.

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    « Reply #58 on: July 24, 2025, 10:38:40 AM »
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  • Yes sorry. I forgot. What society says is always right and better. And worldly minded trads are always right. Where were my manners!

    I must tell myself over and over, : Wisdom is useless. Inferior
    Wisdom is useless: Inferior
    Wisdom is useless: inferior...


    Am I doing better now mommy?
    Not sure what your comment is supposed to be about but most men peak physically speaking in their 20s. More youthful, better hairline, higher testosterone, higher fertility etc.

    Society actually tells me and women to get married 30+. This is terrible for the women but bearable for the man if he has money. But most men don't nowadays because they have to compete with; woman, foreigners, and computer systems, and lack motivation due to having extremely low possibility of getting what they want (good income, house, cute young virgin wife). This low motivation can really spiral out of control. Despite poor economic conditions it's still possible for a man to be financially successful by 25, if he makes the right moves and has proper guidance and doesn't make mistakes. Each mistake sets you back and snowballs. If you had an improper upbringing and your parents didn't guide you and motivate you you are in a really bad starting point. Your outlook and potential hope is terrible.

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    Re: Historical marriage age for men
    « Reply #59 on: July 24, 2025, 10:45:03 AM »
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  • I don't think you have to be a 25 year old brad Pitt to land a Catholic woman to marry, but jeepers guys, get in at least decent shape, and take care of your dental hygiene.

    Work out. Don't have to be a rat but be marketable. We all care about looks like everyone else, quit the denial.

    Oh, and have a little charisma and good decorum. Parents should be passing this stuff on to their sons when they get to an appropriate age.
    I'm in good shape and working on more stuff. My parents barely told me anything (novus ordo) and the little they did they didn't mention why it's important among other things. I don't think boomer parents understand how much things have changed since they were young.

    I am mainly worried because I am demoralised that when am ready for marriage I will be faced with barriers (oh she's too young for you, oh your too old). Is 10-15 age gap too big? Is 16-18 too young for a lady to get married? I don't think so, but my fellow parishioners may feel otherwise and from what I heard about priest and SSPX they recommend ladies to get married 22+... Which is the end of their prime :facepalm:

    Also if a guy has lost of blemishes on his face, acne/scars, sunspots, pigmentation marks, moles, would it be strange to get it lasered off to be more attractive?