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Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2024, 06:36:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: account on February 16, 2024, 06:28:59 PM
    i'm a traditional catholic in full communion with the pope. are you a traditional catholic in full communion with the pope?
    The chair of Peter is vacant.
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #46 on: February 16, 2024, 11:58:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on February 16, 2024, 06:36:12 PM
    The chair of Peter is vacant.
    pope francis has not resigned as far as i know.
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #47 on: February 17, 2024, 07:07:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: account on February 16, 2024, 11:58:03 PM
    pope francis has not resigned as far as i know.
    Jorge Mario Bergoglio has never held the See of Rome. He is not the Pope. He probably not a bishop. He is possibly not a priest.

    Yes, I am feeding you, troll, because you need to hear this.
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #48 on: February 17, 2024, 09:05:30 AM »
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    • When you just opened an account, "account", made 13 posts, and are immediately at 0 upthumbs and 26 downthumbs, you know you don't belong here.  But he knew that out of the gate, because he's a troll.
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #49 on: February 17, 2024, 03:09:00 PM »
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    • i'm curious as to your positions on these questions:

    can the pope teach heresy or error relating to faith or morals in an excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach heresy relating to faith or morals in his magisterium in a non excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach error relating to faith or morals in his magisterium in a non excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach error relating to faith or morals not in his magisterium?
    can the pope teach heresy relating to faith or morals not in his magisterium?
    can the pope teach an ex cathedra statement relating to faith or morals free from error or heresy outside of his magisterium?
    can the pope be a heretic?
    can the pope be an occult heretic?
    can the pope be a formal heretic?
    can the pope be a manifest heretic?
    can the pope commit the sin of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he commits the sin of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he commits the crime of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he teaches error outside his magisterium?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he teaches heresy outside his magisterium?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he goes into a room with a dog and attempts to teach the dog heresy?

    does the pope cease to be the pope when he becomes an occult heretic?
    how can you know with certainty that someone is an occult heretic?
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #50 on: February 17, 2024, 03:16:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: account on February 17, 2024, 03:09:00 PM
    i'm curious as to your positions on these questions:

    can the pope teach heresy or error relating to faith or morals in an excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach heresy relating to faith or morals in his magisterium in a non excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach error relating to faith or morals in his magisterium in a non excathedra statement?
    can the pope teach error relating to faith or morals not in his magisterium?
    can the pope teach heresy relating to faith or morals not in his magisterium?
    can the pope teach an ex cathedra statement relating to faith or morals free from error or heresy outside of his magisterium?
    can the pope be a heretic?
    can the pope be an occult heretic?
    can the pope be a formal heretic?
    can the pope be a manifest heretic?
    can the pope commit the sin of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he commits the sin of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he commits the crime of heresy?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he teaches error outside his magisterium?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he teaches heresy outside his magisterium?
    does the pope cease to be the pope when he goes into a room with a dog and attempts to teach the dog heresy?

    does the pope cease to be the pope when he becomes an occult heretic?
    how can you know with certainty that someone is an occult heretic?
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    I commend our mysterious accountant's zeal in wanting to learn about these important questions, but really the best way to learn about these things is from theologians, not from a web forum.

    How about this, Mr. Account. Why don't you get a copy of St. Robert Bellarmine's book "On the Roman Pontiff", (it has been translated into English), read it, and if you still have questions you could perhaps ask us? He is certainly going to know the answers to these questions much better than we would.
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #51 on: February 17, 2024, 03:26:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2024, 03:16:09 PM
    .

    I commend our mysterious accountant's zeal in wanting to learn about these important questions, but really the best way to learn about these things is from theologians, not from a web forum.

    How about this, Mr. Account. Why don't you get a copy of St. Robert Bellarmine's book "On the Roman Pontiff", (it has been translated into English), read it, and if you still have questions you could perhaps ask us? He is certainly going to know the answers to these questions much better than we would.
    i'm not interested in knowing the correct answers to the questions at the moment. i was just asking for peoples personal opinions. St. Robert Bellarmine has his own opinions and i'm sure i can read those opinions eventually
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #52 on: February 17, 2024, 03:37:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 16, 2024, 11:13:12 AM
    Not quite, anonymous coward.  What I said was that it's my impression that the taste is sublimated somehow in a consecrated host.  I never claimed that if someone put a consecrated host in my mouth I could tell the difference.
    “When we go to Holy Communion, we feel something extraordinary, a comfort which pervades the whole body, and penetrates to the extremities. What is this comfort? It is Our Lord, who communicates Himself to all parts of our bodies, and makes them thrill. We are obliged to say, like St. John, “It is the Lord!” Those who feel absolutely nothing are very much to be pitied.” (Little Catechism of the Curé of Ars)
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #53 on: February 17, 2024, 03:51:20 PM »
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    • People in mortal sin are not to be blessed.  

    Jesus says God male and God made female. 

    Mr.  Bergolio promotes confusion and sin.  Mr. Bergolio is a “little gods” prosperity man who takes order from men who think they are gods.  

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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #54 on: February 17, 2024, 04:30:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2024, 03:16:09 PM
    .

    I commend our mysterious accountant's zeal in wanting to learn about these important questions, but really the best way to learn about these things is from theologians, not from a web forum.

    How about this, Mr. Account. Why don't you get a copy of St. Robert Bellarmine's book "On the Roman Pontiff", (it has been translated into English), read it, and if you still have questions you could perhaps ask us? He is certainly going to know the answers to these questions much better than we would.
    I guess you missed this question:

    does the pope cease to be the pope when he goes into a room with a dog and attempts to teach the dog heresy?

    This person does not appear to be serious at all.  I predict a very short stint here.;)
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #55 on: February 17, 2024, 04:34:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 17, 2024, 04:30:53 PM
    I guess you missed this question:

    does the pope cease to be the pope when he goes into a room with a dog and attempts to teach the dog heresy?

    This person does not appear to be serious at all.  I predict a very short stint here.;)
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    No, I didn't miss that and yes, I agree this person is trying to cause trouble. That's why I suggested he go read a good book by a saint and leave us alone. :cowboy:
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #56 on: February 17, 2024, 04:35:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 17, 2024, 03:51:20 PM
    People in mortal sin are not to be blessed. 

    if you're a same-sex couple in an irregular situation even if you are in mortal sin you can get a simple blessing which is just praying with the priest with the intention of supporting your faith and helping you be more faithful to the gospel outside of liturgical rites and having nothing to do with a union or wedding ceremony


    Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 17, 2024, 04:30:53 PM
    I guess you missed this question:

    does the pope cease to be the pope when he goes into a room with a dog and attempts to teach the dog heresy?

    This person does not appear to be serious at all.  I predict a very short stint here.;)
    well does he? i'm just curious as to what people believe
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #57 on: February 17, 2024, 05:36:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: account on February 16, 2024, 12:54:50 PM
    pope francis has never taught heresy in his magisterium, is virtuous and has love for his fellow man. his most recent docuмent fiducia supplicans was an excellent and clear docuмent showing how far you can go without crossing the line in response to some german bishops who were crossing the line.
    Hello Michael Lofton!
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #58 on: February 18, 2024, 04:59:04 PM »
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    • Others there are who are guilty of rash judgments less out of a bitter spirit than from pride, supposing to exalt their own credit by disparaging that of others. These are self-sufficient, presumptuous people, who stand so high in their own conceit that they despise all else as mean and worthless. It was the foolish Pharisee who said, “I am not as other men are.”
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    Re: Have you noticed any difference spiritually going to novus ordo-derived priests?
    « Reply #59 on: February 18, 2024, 05:40:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 18, 2024, 04:59:04 PM
    Others there are who are guilty of rash judgments less out of a bitter spirit than from pride, supposing to exalt their own credit by disparaging that of others. These are self-sufficient, presumptuous people, who stand so high in their own conceit that they despise all else as mean and worthless. It was the foolish Pharisee who said, “I am not as other men are.”

    Saint Francis de Sales, Introduction to the Devout Life, Chapter 28.

    There, FIFY.

    Dear Anonymous of Reply #93, enough of us have read this to recognize it, and to confirm the source with a quick text search. (Ah, the joys of modern technology.) Why the mystery, why not do us the favor of providing the reference? It's clearly not an original statement, though I'd not go so far as to allege plagiarism. Further, why the stealth posting?
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