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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2018, 02:08:48 PM »
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    Do you think all of a sudden in the XX century, women "empowered" themselves on their own? Of course not. The Zionist MEN, as you say, have GREAT part to blame on this, which is my whole point. I'm not trying to absolve women own gullibility and sin. But you can't blame the entire feminist movement on women alone. 
    No one can blame ANYONE for sinning.  God allows temptation for everyone; God provides grace to offset temptation.  Feminism is so evil and dangerous because it first attacks women's submissive nature, something which no MAN can control; it is only controlled by women themselves and their openness to grace.
    You keep trying to blame men for women's sins.  If men are to blame, then so is God.  For if men failed by letting women be deceived by error, then God failed for allowing humanity to sin.  Of course, this logic makes no sense.  Women accepted feminism because their human nature desires the evils promised by feminism - power/control.  Free will is a powerful thing.  No one can be controlled by another.
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #46 on: November 12, 2018, 02:10:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 01:26:12 PM
    This type of thinking is a denial of free will.  Satan, through his followers (many of which are zionist men) tempt EVERYONE.  The point is that women are tempted by feminism because of their faulty human nature.  Zionist men are just the means by which God uses to tempt them.  The grace is there no matter the cause of the temptation (i.e. interior rebellion vs exterior political system).


    So now not only does the devil tempt us but God tempts us too ?????
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #47 on: November 12, 2018, 02:11:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 12, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
    I've known a few clowns like that.  They put in their 9-5, come home, and then act like they need to be waited on ... when the wife wasn't exactly sitting around doing nothing during that time, but was working hard to take care of the children.  Why don't you respectfully talk to him (and not a bunch of anonymous losers on this forum) and tell him how you feel?  Maybe he'll just get mad of course, since I don't know him.  So perhaps that won't work.  But, at the end of the day, offer this suffering up to Our Lord, and you're the one who's going to be rewarded for it.  At the end of the day, it's between you and God.
    He’s honestly a great husband on whole. Sometimes he just acts like his dad, but if you met his family you’d be like.”oh my gosh... I get it.” He never had a good dad example except for work hard. I love my father in law, and he actually respects me a lot for what I’d, and my role. BUT his lack of influence as a strong leader for a Catholic household is definitely felt in both houses. My husband is a good man though.
    Women don’t fail because of men, and Men don’t fail because of women. Both sexes fail eachother when roles are forgotten. I saw a quote once that was “ marriage isn’t always 100/100. Some days you struggle with your spouse. You suck is up, and pick up that 80/20 because they need you. That’s love.” I couldn’t agree more with it, BUT either gender will find themselves taken advantage of if whoever is dropping their roles continues to do it. Which would lead to feminism, or a discontented husband :(
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #48 on: November 12, 2018, 02:12:24 PM »
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    • God allows temptation to improve us and strengthen us. 

    For whom the Lord loveth, he chastiseth: and as a father in the son he pleaseth himself. (Proverbs 3:12)
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #49 on: November 12, 2018, 02:14:41 PM »
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    Did you know that the main opponents of firstwave feminism were the housewives? Women who were actually provided for and protected by the men and thus, comfortable in their own positions?
    So if women aren't provided for and comfortable, then they are allowed to be feminist, or have an excuse??  If God doesn't answer your prayers, then you can sin?  That's an immature understanding of the Faith.
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    « Reply #50 on: November 12, 2018, 02:23:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 02:14:41 PM
    So if women aren't provided for and comfortable, then they are allowed to be feminist, or have an excuse??  If God doesn't answer your prayers, then you can sin?  That's an immature understanding of the Faith.
    Of course it is not an excuse. However, I strongly suspect that women who are unable to build a successful relationship with a man for any reason, are much more easily persuaded to follow the lies of feminism. 
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #51 on: November 12, 2018, 02:30:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
    He’s honestly a great husband on whole.

    Well, perhaps he's different than some of the guys I know ... or else you're being kind and charitable.
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #52 on: November 12, 2018, 02:36:08 PM »
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    • 40-50 years ago, i'd agree with you.  But nowadays, feminism is being subtley taught to girls at the age of 5.  Movies (Disney's "Frozen", Star Wars, etc) are all filled with feminist ideals.  So women will be taught to act like men and be independent in spirit which will impede their FUTURE relationships with men before they even get to be a teenager.  Then when they fail with men at an older age (because any sane man won't want to be with a controlling, argumentative, stubborn woman), their feminist mistrust of men will transform into HATE, because their childhood indoctrination's false picture of men will be realized.

    It's a scary situation.  Japan has been experiencing this for almost a decade.  Women concentrate on careers and are rewarded with high status.  No one is getting married because women don't want to marry a man who is lower in status than her, so only 1/3 of young people get married.  Pornography is rampant.  Social chaos is immenent.  God help them, it's a mess.
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #53 on: November 12, 2018, 02:54:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 12, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
    Well, perhaps he's different than some of the guys I know ... or else you're being kind and charitable.
    He does have a hard time understanding how important his presence is with the kiddos, but it’s getting better. He used to work all day, go to the gym for two hours, and never see them and barely me.
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    « Reply #54 on: November 12, 2018, 03:19:01 PM »
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    • There's no such thing as an independent woman.  Female independence is only possible if men allow it and actively uphold it.  Their "independence" is entirely based on the whether men allow it to happen or not, because they're completely incapable of achieving it on their own.
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #55 on: November 15, 2018, 11:23:29 PM »
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    • I think being "too Independent," is about wanting to live without a husband.  The woman who is a single mother by choice and is overjoyed about it or at least claims to be.  I think ultimately, it's rebellion against the natural order, that God made.  But, I think a lot of men and women have given up on trying to make marriages work.  I think they are discouraged.  


    Single moms: Stop talking about how brave & cool you are
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #56 on: November 16, 2018, 09:24:14 AM »
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    • Genesis 3:16
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    [...] and thou shalt be under thy husband's power, and he shall have dominion over thee.
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    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #57 on: November 16, 2018, 10:48:31 AM »
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    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
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    • Very few will appreciate my sarcasm, but that bottom picture is actually quite appealing as she is sleeping.... I don’t even remember what sleep is.
    Also, I’ve tried cuddling a few times like that with my family. It never goes that smoothly, and I mean it never ever does .... 
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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #59 on: November 16, 2018, 07:10:43 PM »
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    • The most important and challenging job in world history for a woman is being a mother, homemaker & wife. When done for the glory of Jesus Christ, these women are real warriors.

    Cantarella, you run a strong race. Keep running the race, for the real Prize awaits you.
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    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.
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