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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2018, 11:44:58 AM »
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    Women who don't know how to deal with men, become feminist.

    Men who don't know how to deal with women, go MGTOW. 
    Correction:
    Women who don't want to be women, become feminist.
    Men who don't want to deal with feminists, go MGTOW.


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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #31 on: November 12, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »
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  • Correction:
    Women who don't want to be women, become feminist.
    Men who don't want to deal with feminists, go MGTOW.
    Common driving force in both movements is resentment towards the opposite sex.
    Both are mostly composed of involuntary celibates. 


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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #32 on: November 12, 2018, 12:11:02 PM »
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    Common driving force in both movements is resentment towards the opposite sex.
    No.  Feminism is a corruption of feminine nature, completely separate from any resentment towards men.  Eve didn't listen to the serpent because she was mad at Adam; she listened because she desired knowledge/power, which is her nature's weakness.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #33 on: November 12, 2018, 12:28:15 PM »
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  • No.  Feminism is a corruption of feminine nature, completely separate from any resentment towards men.  Eve didn't listen to the serpent because she was mad at Adam; she listened because she desired knowledge/power, which is her nature's weakness.
    Feminism would have never been successful, if men would not have somehow enabled it. Men are born to lead. Western men failed to do so when they lost all control of their women. Masculine men don't blame others for their failures. That's is a sign of effeminacy. 
    I suspect men by enlarge initially went for Feminism, because for the first time in the whole history of humanity, they could get free sex, without absolutely no commitment or sacrifice on their part. 

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #34 on: November 12, 2018, 12:33:56 PM »
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  • I don’t blame my husband for anything. I gladly do my task, but when he acts like it should just be done while he sits around all weekend doing nothing but nap, and watch football. While I’m up taking care of everything. I’m gonna get a little upset. That is taking advantage of me, and not thinking of my needs to relax on a weekend too.

    I've known a few clowns like that.  They put in their 9-5, come home, and then act like they need to be waited on ... when the wife wasn't exactly sitting around doing nothing during that time, but was working hard to take care of the children.  Why don't you respectfully talk to him (and not a bunch of anonymous losers on this forum) and tell him how you feel?  Maybe he'll just get mad of course, since I don't know him.  So perhaps that won't work.  But, at the end of the day, offer this suffering up to Our Lord, and you're the one who's going to be rewarded for it.  At the end of the day, it's between you and God.


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    « Reply #35 on: November 12, 2018, 12:40:32 PM »
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  • Feminism would have never been successful, if men would not have somehow enabled it. Men are born to lead. Western men failed to do so when they lost all control of their women. Masculine men don't blame others for their failures. That's is a sign of effeminacy.
    This is what I see all the time. When men fail, it is the men's fault. When women fail, it is the men's fault. If you were God all women would go to heaven because God is merciful and all men would go to hell to suffer for the women's sins.

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    « Reply #36 on: November 12, 2018, 12:45:19 PM »
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  • This is what I see all the time. When men fail, it is the men's fault. When women fail, it is the men's fault. If you were God all women would go to heaven because God is merciful and all men would go to hell to suffer for the women's sins.
    Being a leader who demands obedience, does come with big responsibilities. 

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #37 on: November 12, 2018, 12:59:36 PM »
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    Feminism would have never been successful, if men would not have somehow enabled it. Men are born to lead. Western men failed to do so when they lost all control of their women. Masculine men don't blame others for their failures. That's is a sign of effeminacy. 
    I suspect men by enlarge initially went for Feminism, because for the first time in the whole history of humanity, they could get free sex, without absolutely no commitment or sacrifice on their part. 
    Eve sinned first.  She didn't blame Adam because he was not to blame.  Eve was corrupted by satan, not Adam.  If you don't accept this fact, then 1) you don't understand human nature and 2) you have an anti-catholic view of history and the truth of what happened in the garden of eden.
    You can't blame feminism on men, just like you can't blame Eve's sin on Adam.  To do so is a denail of free will and a denial of women's inherent temptations.
    Men have plenty of faults, but we're discussing specificially feminism, which is can be blamed on ZIONIST MEN (who promoted it) and the women who listened to the lies of the serpent once again.


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    « Reply #38 on: November 12, 2018, 01:02:17 PM »
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  • This is what I see all the time. When men fail, it is the men's fault. When women fail, it is the men's fault. If you were God all women would go to heaven because God is merciful and all men would go to hell to suffer for the women's sins.

    Right.  For some, this thinking is driven by misogyny.  As is the case with men also, there are good women and there are bad women.  Women are rational beings and have free will.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #39 on: November 12, 2018, 01:02:47 PM »
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    Being a leader who demands obedience, does come with big responsibilities. 
    Catholic men do not demand obedience, they expect it of catholic women.  God demands obedience to Him, through wives' husbands. 
    Again, your false understanding of the problem is the reason why feminism survives.  Wives do not obey their husbands because he earns it or demands it, but because God requires it.  If you won't obey a husband, then don't get married.

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    « Reply #40 on: November 12, 2018, 01:13:25 PM »
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    Men have plenty of faults, but we're discussing specificially feminism, which is can be blamed on ZIONIST MEN (who promoted it) and the women who listened to the lies of the serpent once again.

    You prove my point. Modern Feminism is the creation of MEN. Most women are too dumb to even realize what's happening.


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    « Reply #41 on: November 12, 2018, 01:22:56 PM »
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    You can't blame feminism on men, just like you can't blame Eve's sin on Adam.

    Eve was gullible and rebellious. She sinned. Adam did not assert his God's-given authority. He also sinned. God punished them BOTH and BOTH (men and women are responsible for their own sins before God) 

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    « Reply #42 on: November 12, 2018, 01:26:12 PM »
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    You prove my point. Modern Feminism is the creation of MEN. Most women are too dumb to even realize what's happening.
    So what?  Martin Luther was a man and he started Protestantism.  Does that mean that all women who gave up catholicism and embraced protestant heresy are absolved?  Of course not.

    This type of thinking is a denial of free will.  Satan, through his followers (many of which are zionist men) tempt EVERYONE.  The point is that women are tempted by feminism because of their faulty human nature.  Zionist men are just the means by which God uses to tempt them.  The grace is there no matter the cause of the temptation (i.e. interior rebellion vs exterior political system).

    Plenty of women who lived in convents were feminists before the term even existed.  St Theresa of Avila said once she realized her life was worldly and prideful and started to become pious, her fellow sisters hated her because her life was a reproach of their lust for independence and freedom.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #43 on: November 12, 2018, 01:29:58 PM »
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    Eve was gullible and rebellious. She sinned. Adam did not assert his God's-given authority. He also sinned. God punished them BOTH and BOTH (men and women are responsible for their own sins before God) 
    Partially true and partially false.  Eve sinned of her own accord.  Adam had NOTHING to do with it.  You keep trying to blame Eve's sin on Adam.  That's anti-catholic.
    Eve sinned because she did not consult Adam for guidance; she sinned through pride and rebellion.  Adam sinned because he listened to Eve, not because he failed his role as authoritarian.  Eve was already told BY GOD not to eat of the forbidden fruit.  She knew what she was doing was wrong.

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    Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
    « Reply #44 on: November 12, 2018, 01:58:08 PM »
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    Plenty of women who lived in convents were feminists before the term even existed.

    True. But why do you think that feminism never took off to the point of destroying entire nations by taking the wife and mother out of the home?

    Simply because men didn't allow it. Because there were not laws enabling the feminism to foster. Because women didn't have the vote, nor careers, or right to "choose" or birth control, etc.... Did you know that the main opponents of firstwave feminism were the housewives? Women who were actually provided for and protected by the men and thus, comfortable in their own positions?

    Do you think all of a sudden in the XX century, women "empowered" themselves on their own? Of course not. The Zionist MEN, as you say, have GREAT part to blame on this, which is my whole point. I'm not trying to absolve women own gullibility and sin. But you can't blame the entire feminist movement on women alone.