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Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
« on: April 14, 2017, 02:46:17 PM »
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    • I am 99% sure I am correct on the following:

    Jesus refers to the blashphemy of the Holy Spirit in (I believe) Mt 12:32?

    and says that there is no forgiveness for that and that the Church defines this unforgivable sin as: rejecting Jesus with an eternal NO (my paraphrase), knowing that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and etc... but rejecting Him anyway

    in one Catholic version of the Bible (I am pretty sure it was the Douay Rheims) a footnote said that the person who blashphemes as those in the scrputre psg did very rarely repent, even though all sins are forgivable if one is truly sorry..

    So anyway, if the pope knows the Way and yet rejects it, it looks like we can be all but absolutely certain he has committed this sin?

    God is the only Judge and it is true that all sincerely-repented of sin is forgivable, but I agree w/ that aforementioned foot note: once someone has knowingly rejected Jesus (forgiveness) it is very very unlikely he will repent.

    Masons are taught to renounce Christ. So i can't help but think that Francis is a Mason

    Well, only God knows the whole story. But one thing we do know:

    Francis is teaching something that is not only un-Catholic but anti-Catholic

    :cussing:
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 03:53:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 14, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
    Francis is teaching something that is not only un-Catholic but anti-Catholic

    Same as the rest of the conciliar popes, they've been teaching anti-Catholicism for the last +50 years - nothing to see here.
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 07:14:42 PM »
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    • He publicly does an adulterated "Mess".  That is the "greatest" of sins, to take away the Most Precious Blood of Christ.  It is more than denial and you don't have to guess, or be of an opinion.  He does it manifestly!  And any one who follows him, does the same, upholds, writes etc of this New "World" Order, is in the same boat.  This has been going on for decades and decades!!
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 08:24:27 PM »
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    Properly speaking, the unforgivable sin is something left to God's judgment for any particular person, but we can know what it entails. Rejection of the Holy Ghost means the refusal to allow God's grace to enter our heart and to provide for us the healing power of which it is capable -- but God's grace must be something that we choose to cooperate with, for if we choose to reject it then it is not effective in our soul.
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    Francis and his immediate predecessors have given pretty bad example of how to cooperate with God's grace.
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    But this is one thing that is the FIRST DUTY of a pope, because it affects all the faithful in giving spiritual scandal making it more difficult to follow him in good conscience. The coronation oath (which perhaps Francis did not take) contains the promise to safeguard Sacred Tradition, come what may. That's why the pope first steps into red slippers when he accepts the election, but Francis did not wear the red slippers.
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    There are many bad marks against what he has said and done. Someone needs to make a list.
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 04:25:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 14, 2017, 07:14:42 PM

    He publicly does an adulterated "Mess".  That is the "greatest" of sins, to take away the Most Precious Blood of Christ.  It is more than denial and you don't have to guess, or be of an opinion.  He does it manifestly!  And any one who follows him, does the same, upholds, writes etc of this New "World" Order, is in the same boat.  This has been going on for decades and decades!!
    it looks like ewtn is supporting his blashphemies/heresies

    they keep covering his masses

    no wonder Jesus said FEW make it to Heaven (Mt 7:13, Lk 13:24)
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 04:26:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on April 14, 2017, 08:24:27 PM

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    Properly speaking, the unforgivable sin is something left to God's judgment for any particular person, but we can know what it entails. Rejection of the Holy Ghost means the refusal to allow God's grace to enter our heart and to provide for us the healing power of which it is capable -- but God's grace must be something that we choose to cooperate with, for if we choose to reject it then it is not effective in our soul.
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    Francis and his immediate predecessors have given pretty bad example of how to cooperate with God's grace.
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    But this is one thing that is the FIRST DUTY of a pope, because it affects all the faithful in giving spiritual scandal making it more difficult to follow him in good conscience. The coronation oath (which perhaps Francis did not take) contains the promise to safeguard Sacred Tradition, come what may. That's why the pope first steps into red slippers when he accepts the election, but Francis did not wear the red slippers.
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    There are many bad marks against what he has said and done. Someone needs to make a list.
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    i thought he declined 2 step into the red slippers bc some PC anti-Catholic group called them Pradas

    and he didn't want 2b associated w/ the rich?

    what a crock that he cares about the poor. He certainly does not care about them getting to Heaven
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 04:29:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 15, 2017, 12:06:31 AM

    Here you go.
    http://francisquotes.com/
    thanks for that.

    i did what all Christians should do:

    copy and pasted it to read and examine closely later
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 07:15:13 PM »
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    • the sound on my cheap TV is not so good

    so I use the cc

    which means i do not hear what the pope is saying (televised masses)

    ignorance is bliss
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 12:08:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 23, 2017, 01:18:43 AM
    Maybe by accusing the Holy Father of committing the unforgivable sin you yourself are committing the unforgivable sin. maybe instead of bad mouthing the Holy Father you should be praying for him.
     
    oh give me a break
    you care more about a heretic than you do about a true Christian apparently
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2017, 01:49:24 PM »
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    • The pattern now for 60 years with the VatII church popes (Paul VI, JPII, B-16, F1)is that they can say and do any heresy and everyone will forget about it in a few days and continue to call him "Holy Father". See Crisis in the Church posting 
    JPII, B-16, F1 : Walks Like a Duck......
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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2017, 01:52:20 PM »
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    • St. John Chrysostom, sometime Patriarch of Constantinople:
     
    “I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think, I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties therein.
     

    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail”. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles) 
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Has the pope committed the unforgivable sin? blashphemy against HS
    « Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 05:43:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 26, 2017, 01:49:24 PM
    The pattern now for 60 years with the VatII church popes (Paul VI, JPII, B-16, F1)is that they can say and do any heresy and everyone will forget about it in a few days and continue to call him "Holy Father". See Crisis in the Church posting
    JPII, B-16, F1 : Walks Like a Duck......
    yeh, i notice that
    same deal in politics... OH MY Gosh!!!!!!!!! Lois Lerner targeted conservatives.. harassment, etc... she retires w/ a pension and it's... on to other stuff
    ditto Hillary and others
    sometimes i think that when people stop being shocked by what some lawless person does, perps  get bored and just do something more outrageous to get attn
    does that make sense?? hmm... I am very tired. Sorry if it doesn't make sense.. It made sense when it first came to mind
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    « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 03:28:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on April 27, 2017, 02:10:40 AM
    13 When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?"14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter said in reply, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood  has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. 18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

    Matthew 16: 13 - 19

    I care more about the Catholic Church. I think that gratuitously bad mouthing the Holy Father is contrary to what true Christianity is all about.
    yes, facing and speaking the truth is very un-Christian
    :confused: :(
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