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God is love
« on: June 03, 2018, 09:13:50 AM »
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    • I've always been told God is love.

    I also read somewhere that our lady appeared to a saint, and spoke of her horror when a 12 year old boy who committed one mortal sin, was dragged to hell.

    Surely, if God is love, he wouldn't want someone to suffer for all eternity over one mistake?
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #1 on: June 03, 2018, 03:06:18 PM »
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    • In the fourth chapter of his first Epistle, Saint John the Apostle, a very good and reliable source, affirms twice that God is love. Something read somewhere doesn't seem like a good or reliable source. In considering the value of statements and whether they concur or conflict, one should consider the source. As to what God would want, Saint Paul, another very good and reliable source, tells us that the will of God is our sanctification, which would concur with what you say: surely God wouldn't want someone to suffer for all eternity over one mistake. There are all kinds of things God wouldn't want, but men do. Grace makes it possible for men to want what God does want. If we consider, think about, dwell upon, look for, ask about what God does want, then we can cooperate with his will, unto our sanctification.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #2 on: June 03, 2018, 04:00:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on June 03, 2018, 09:13:50 AM
    I've always been told God is love.

    I also read somewhere that our lady appeared to a saint, and spoke of her horror when a 12 year old boy who committed one mortal sin, was dragged to hell.

    Surely, if God is love, he wouldn't want someone to suffer for all eternity over one mistake?
    Even one mortal sin separates us from God eternally and could put us in Hell if not confessed of before our deaths. 
    I'm not trying to sound self-righteous at all, and if I do, forgive me. This is Catholicism 101, however. Some of the first tenets of our Faith.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #3 on: June 03, 2018, 04:34:13 PM »
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    • Of course, that one mortal sin is not a mistake, but an intentional rejection of God and His law. The intention is the sinner's to sin and reject God. It is not God who wants the sinner to sin or to reject Him. God offers sinners opportunities for repentance, forgiveness and salvation. It is men who remain impenitent, or who are ready to declare others condemned. "Therefore judge not before the time; until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall every man have praise from God." [1 Corinthians 4:5]
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #4 on: June 03, 2018, 04:52:37 PM »
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    • I believe that the age of reason is around 7 years of age. That means that 5 years would have passed since to said sinner reached the age of reason. That is why children now have the opportunity to confess their sins from around the age of 7. 

    Our God is a loving and just God. Nobody goes to hell for his mistakes. He goes because he rejects God.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #5 on: June 03, 2018, 08:45:45 PM »
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    • A sin is never a mistake.  Use of the word "mistake" is modernism.

    To commit a mortal sin, one must recognize with any doubt that he is committing a mortal sin, and also realize that that particular sin is recognized by the Church as a serious sin.  Then, he must deliberately choose to do what is morally wrong. In other words, when a person deliberately chooses to commit a mortal sin rather than to obey God's laws, such a sin is never a mistake.

    Isn't this the sin of Satan when he stated, "I will not serve."  Self-will and pride are involved in any deliberate serious sin as pride is the root of all evil.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 10:54:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on June 04, 2018, 02:21:32 AM
    It could be an act of the mercy of God. God, in His infinite omniscience could see that this person's first sin would be the first of many in which this person would have no repentance. Rather than allowing this person to go from one sin to the other, not only just living a life of sin himself but leading others to sin, allowed this person to have a less harsh punishment by dying right then and there.      
    That indeed is what the good Dominican sisters taught us in parochial school.

    Sure, as impressionable 10 and 12 year olds, that teaching scared us silly, but I think a lot of us grew up to be strong in our faith for we realized that our first mortal sin could condemn us to hell for eternity if we died before repenting of it and confessing it to a priest.

    I still remember Sr. Geraldine, O.P.  She had a rule, "Don't smile until Christmas," and she put the fear of God in our hearts.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 05:00:04 AM »
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    • So in 40 billion years time, he will be burning in agony, over one thing he did when he was a child.......
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #8 on: June 08, 2018, 08:28:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on June 05, 2018, 05:00:04 AM
    So in 40 billion years time, he will be burning in agony, over one thing he did when he was a child.......
    There is no time in eternity. But there is punishment for unrepented sin, and true repentance leads you to heaven. So don't leave it too long to believe in God's warnings and promises.
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    Re: God is love
    « Reply #9 on: June 10, 2018, 02:06:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on June 05, 2018, 05:00:04 AM
    So in 40 billion years time, he will be burning in agony, over one thing he did when he was a child.......
    That is the punishment for mortal sin. 
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