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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on July 08, 2012, 09:46:07 PM
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The wife of a relative sometimes tells me of strange occurrences in the homes they've lived in.
In their present home the youngest daughter has seen a girl in the parents' bedroom or around the house and would be able to describe her with the same features and wearing the same clothing.
In a previous home the mother said that she was chased out of the cellar by something which told them to get out. They also claim to have had strange issues with huge horseflies in the cellar within days of moving into this house, and later large maggots on the ceilings. They'd sometimes hear loud bangs, and a few times everything in the bathroom medicine cabinet would fall out on its own.
She is a good gardener and sold her own vegetables one year, and some man in black asked for a glass of water which she gave, and in return he gave her some crystal which he said would help the garden in the future, and walked down the road and was gone. The crystal was left behind when they moved out.
There were other tales which I will not recount here, but the point of the thread is to ask about what a Catholic should do assuming that these things are true mainly for my own satisfaction as these stories creep me out. I do not have reason to believe that they are lying, but then the tales are pretty far out there.
I suggested that they see their priest, and I guess they took it under advisement. They are Catholics and I charitably assume that they go to Mass every week and receive the Sacraments. They also keep pictures and Crucifixes in the house, including the Holy Family, the Sacred Heart, the Blessed Mother, and The Last Supper.
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The wife of a relative sometimes tells me of strange occurrences in the homes they've lived in.
In their present home the youngest daughter has seen a girl in the parents' bedroom or around the house and would be able to describe her with the same features and wearing the same clothing.
In a previous home the mother said that she was chased out of the cellar by something which told them to get out. They also claim to have had strange issues with huge horseflies in the cellar within days of moving into this house, and later large maggots on the ceilings. They'd sometimes hear loud bangs, and a few times everything in the bathroom medicine cabinet would fall out on its own.
She is a good gardener and sold her own vegetables one year, and some man in black asked for a glass of water which she gave, and in return he gave her some crystal which he said would help the garden in the future, and walked down the road and was gone. The crystal was left behind when they moved out.
There were other tales which I will not recount here, but the point of the thread is to ask about what a Catholic should do assuming that these things are true mainly for my own satisfaction as these stories creep me out. I do not have reason to believe that they are lying, but then the tales are pretty far out there.
I suggested that they see their priest, and I guess they took it under advisement. They are Catholics and I charitably assume that they go to Mass every week and receive the Sacraments. They also keep pictures and Crucifixes in the house, including the Holy Family, the Sacred Heart, the Blessed Mother, and The Last Supper.
I don't know what to tell you. Do we have very and defective senses of a spiritual world around us, or do we allow imagination and the power of suggestion to overcome good sense? Or is it likely a combination of both?
My good friend worked at the zoo as a night watchmen. He once claimed to see a woman at night pushing a baby carriage, an old fashioned pram.
What can I say?
I've had some odd experiences, but always rather hazy, unreal - once clairvoyant - sometimes seeming to be telepathic - usually hard to remember clearly. People can be led to doubt the evidence of their own senses, when they shouldn't.
St. Thomas Aquinas believed that witchcraft and curses by witches were possible.
It is important to avoid dwelling on these things, as it feeds morbid fascinations and could lead bad spirits to take notice.
Those who have a predilection towards being fascinated with these topics should avoid them. And avoid horror movies and novels. (like The Shining).
"There are more things on heaven and earth than are dreamt of" - that doesn't mean we should be hearkening to the voices of bad spirits.
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Again I don't know what to believe concerning this.
I usually try to occupy my mind when these thoughts come to me, but not because I fear temptation of believing in seances or anything related to some spiritual idea contrary to Catholic faith; rather because I don't like being scared of such things. I used to have a major problem with the fear of things unseen, or things which were hidden. As a teenager I read an article about Disney urban legends and for a couple months I burnt the midnight oil every night, but not because they were ghost stories.
If I see apparitions or believe to see them, or experience real or imagined phenomena such as I have described it, will a priest be of any use in overcoming this? I realize that keeping a $19.95 Brazilian Power Crystal (made in China) for spiritual reasons is not a good idea, of course.
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Throw any occult thing away.
They are all satanic.
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Having occult things can lead to demonic activity.
Throw away any astrology, yoga, spiritualism, new age, pagan, etc. things or books.
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Don't post if you're not going to read everything.
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i knew a woman who had to move out of her house because she claimed ghosts (or demons) were causing all sorts of mischief. when she told me this i looked at her for some sign that she was lying or exaggerating, but she said it matter of fact-ly without any melodrama or seeming ulterior motives, so i tend to believe her.
they would scare the heck out of me. the first sign, even a subtle one, of some supernatural presence in my home and i would be out the door lickety-split! and never go back! i would hire someone to go in there and move all my stuff out.
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This is one of the big questions: is the supernatural real or not? If it is, then do we have the capacity to control it/protect ourselves from it? I would think for a catholic the answer to both those questions should be emphatically yes. Demons are real, but so are angels and we are promised their protection!
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PRAYER TO THE GUARDIAN ANGEL
Angel of God, my Guardian dear,
To whom His love commits me here,
Ever this day be at my side,
To light and guard, to rule and guide. Amen.
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PRAYER FOR PROTECTION DURING THE NIGHT
Visit, we beseech Thee, O Lord, this habitation, and drive from it all the snares of the enemy. Let They holy Angels dwell herein to preserve us in peace, and may They blessing be upon us for ever, through Christ our Lord. Amen.
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This gave me an idea: I should find a pretense to gift my relatives with a picture of St. Michael the Archangel. I'll have it blessed by a priest or monsignor first, of course. I had suggested that the mother and father speak with a priest about their experiences, but the mother did not seem to be interested in doing so--perhaps she didn't think that priests could do anything about it. I'll also try to get the kids to learn the Prayer to St. Michael.
Perhaps I should mention to the priest that it is intended for a Catholic family who think that their home may be haunted.
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This gave me an idea: I should find a pretense to gift my relatives with a picture of St. Michael the Archangel. I'll have it blessed by a priest or monsignor first, of course. I had suggested that the mother and father speak with a priest about their experiences, but the mother did not seem to be interested in doing so--perhaps she didn't think that priests could do anything about it. I'll also try to get the kids to learn the Prayer to St. Michael.
Perhaps I should mention to the priest that it is intended for a Catholic family who think that their home may be haunted.
That sounds like a good idea! I would pray for them too. They sound like they need it! :pray:
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Does anyone know anything of the history of the house? It may be that previous owners or tenants conducted seances or other occultic acts therein, & thereby brought about its infestation. Or, perhaps someone committed ѕυιcιdє on the premises, or was a blasphemer. Holy Water & Exorcized Salt may help, although an exorcism of the house would of course be best. When I was a young fellow I lived in a rented house with my mother that had about it an an atmosphere of evil. We felt a sense of indescribable menace at times, as if we were being watched by something hostile. We were not yet converted at the time, but even so felt instinctively that the phenomena was of diabolical origin. I somehow knew that someone had died in the house & related my suspicions to mother, who later in the course of a passing conversation told the landlord what I had said. She said that he stood looking at her in disbelief for a few seconds & then asked how I could possibly know that; that indeed an old woman had died alone in the house years earlier. We were certainly glad to move when the opportunity presented itself.
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The family are chronic movers, to their detriment, but claim to have experiences in each house they lived in. They did not know the history of all the houses, however.
The first house the parents moved into after marriage burned down due to an electrical fire, but the mother says that someone who lived therein previously had attempted ѕυιcιdє several times before finally succeeding. She said that she was able to "sense" where he finally ended himself, and found small leftover bloodstains in the attic which were concealed by something (I forgot what). This is all of the history she knew about the houses they lived in.
The family lived in northern Vermont for a year, and I only visited it once. When I was there I had a sense of something not being "right," like it was a bad idea to live in the place, but I never saw or encountered anything. The following winter they had already been moved out, and the roof shortly after caved in from the weight of excess snow. I figure that this was just a coincidence.
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I don't believe in ghosts, it goes against Scripture and Catechism. When a person dies they have their particular judgement and either go to heaven immediately or to purgatory to await the general judgement. They do not become ghosts. If something is happening in your home and things are being physically moved, you have a demon or demons around. Call an exorcist immediately. I will say I would even accept the existence of extra-dimensional aliens or even invisible earth creatures (do a youtube search for 'flying rods', they are quite interesting.)
But the human soul does not just wander around after death, it cannot.
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Ghosts and stuff
I believe in the Holy Ghost..........and stuff.
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I don't believe in ghosts, it goes against Scripture and Catechism. When a person dies they have their particular judgement and either go to heaven immediately or to purgatory to await the general judgement. They do not become ghosts. If something is happening in your home and things are being physically moved, you have a demon or demons around. Call an exorcist immediately. I will say I would even accept the existence of extra-dimensional aliens or even invisible earth creatures (do a youtube search for 'flying rods', they are quite interesting.)
But the human soul does not just wander around after death, it cannot.
I wouldn't waste your time worrying about aliens.