The docuмentary "Deliver Us From Evil" is very good, though it should only be viewed by prudent, mature adults.

Some heretical views are expressed but it does a good job of exposing the hypocrisy of an organization that recently beatified whom it hails as "the Pope of the Youth," and yet was the same man who enabled the massive and organized conspiracy to cover up and protect clerical sex criminals (i.e., John Paul II): only to be succeeded by the man who was directly and actively involved in this massive conspiracy as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (i.e., Benedict XVI).

So there you have it...

Oh, by the way, who should study their catechism!  ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a mortal sin!  

Oh, by the way, who should study their catechism!  ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a mortal sin!  

You should!

Stupidity can also be an occasion of mortal sin.

As this forum has demonstrated, idiocy can lead to heretical and schismatical errors.

Thanks be to God that people like you are too dense to be culpable of such sins, but you are leading others to heresy and error.

Does this not bother you?

If you go on like this, you will join the sodomites in the depths of hell.

Ok Matthew, these ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs on this thread are on ignore!

These Donatist, puerile bastards are getting out of control! Yes, bastards: they are unworthy to be children of the Church if they keep harping on their pet theories and leading others astray.


You need to check with a good Priest and let him set you straight on this topic, which has nothing to do with deviants anymore but with your obscene ignorance of sacramental theology and your consequent childish behavior.

You can not receive a sacrament, any sacrament, unless you are in the state of grace!  

So you are saying that you must be in the state of grace to receive Baptism?

Oh, by the way, the word gαy should not be used as a substitute for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

Neither should the word gαy be used as a substitute for sodomist, nor ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ for sodomist.

If you learn to use your words correctly you will also clear up some of your muddled thinking.

I suggest you have a look at the website http://couragerc.net/

Nadir:  WE understand Baptism and Penance are sacraments of the dead, and to take on any other sacrament takes grace.  A ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ can lust and be in mortal sin without the action.

It's a tangential remark, but it bears some relevance to the present discussion:


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One can have a same-sex attraction and be Catholic at the same time.

No, no, no.

"Same-sex attraction" is an erroneous concept that obfuscates terrible and unnatural temptations that some individuals face due to situational factors (psychological trauma, neuro-chemical malfunction of some sort, &c.) or individual choices to which culpability may be imputed (for example, the vice of self-abuse: for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is nothing more than a extended form of self-abuse, combined with sociopathically egocentric proclivities), that has been implemented systematically in our anti-Christian society in order to "re-define" the true notion of the marital act: a privilege exclusively granted to a man and his wife, bound to one another in sacred vows of the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, for the propagation of the human race and the increase of Holy Mother Church.

It is unseemly for Catholics to seriously use terms such as "same sex attraction" or "LGTB Community" when they are supposed to know that such constructs are anti-Christian concoctions, attacking the sanctity of the home and family.

I am not implying that any culpability should be imputed to anyone here for using such lexicon, because everyone of us has to unlearn the garbage that was fed to us by the world: this process is commonly known as conversion, and it is a life-long process and not all attain to it the same way and in the same manner. However, all earnest Catholics eventually acknowledge the deceit of this age and eschew it.

For purposes of clarification, allow me to tweak with your statement in order to demonstrate how one should express himself regarding this matter:

One can have a same-sex attraction may be afflicted with horrible temptations against the 6th and 9th Commandments, even tempted to unnatural or contra-natural iniquity, and be Catholic at the same time if he earnestly strives to conquer these temptation, and, moreover, detaches himself from the world and gives himself over to prayer, so that he may not fall into any heretical errors regarding the above-mentioned Commandments.

A Catholic may be a horrible sinner against purity yet maintain the infused virtue of faith, although exceedingly vitiated. However, as all authors of the spiritual life attest, sins against purity always lead to a loss of faith eventually in those who remain obstinate therein. In the present day, the special danger regarding unnatural sins against purity is that the anti-Christian agenda has made things so that those who do not strive to overcome temptations to such vices do in fact end up committing horrible errors against the faith.

It is of great perfection to be so self-detached that one does not identify himself with his crosses: to accept them in filial self-abandonment to Divine Providence and use all means necessary to conquer any temptations, whilst offering to God through the Blessed Virgin Mary the anxiety and shame concomitant with such base temptations as a sacrifice of reparation: and to do so in silence and discretion. To go on and on about one's temptations so as to gain sympathy from others betrays a self-detachment that ultimately brought about such temptations in the first place.

It is an obscene and damning error that the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs commit when they not only commit their horrible deeds whilst publishing it, but go so far as to avail themselves of such iniquities to constitute (or, rather, deform) their very identity. How foolish is this! Can there be anything more satanic than this?

I thought [...] we should use the term "Same Sex Attraction" instead of terms like "gαy."

Note that I did not use that word because it is inaccurate: "gαy" is an adjective synonymous to such other adjectives as joyous or gleeful. It had been initially transmogrified as an obscene euphemism by those who are not only given over to the vice of sodomy or (in the case of women) to the Sapphic vice, but seek to "normalize" it and make it "acceptable" to the populace.

Now liberal elitists are campaigning against the usage of the word, because it supposedly constitutes a "hate crime" to use it as an attack upon those who are (or perceived to be) given over to the above-mentioned vices.

I think I answered my own question now:

Can there be anything more satanic than this?

Yes: a society that has criminalized the hatred of sin and the detestation of one's conscience of that which all sane and rational creatures recognize as unnatural: that is completely satanic, and more so than whatever unnatural sin against purity that any individual sinner can perpetrate, as it is a complete rejection of the Kingship of Christ and the rule of right reason by society as a whole.