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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 05:42:33 PM »
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  • It's acceptance in society teach people like you to fear only those who murder the body while not fearing those who kill the soul.  Compare Matthew 10:28.  You show yourself one step closer to hell by defending evil and sin.
    I think you are jumping to conclusions if you think the OP is defending evil, it reads to me like he is trying to understand why the traditional teaching against homosexuals is so severe as compared to the modern day position which is so understanding of their "alternate lifestyle choice".  OP needs to understand that marriage is quite different from a secular contract between two people which is all the government considers a marriage to be. 
    That's also why governments think they have the authority to dissolve the "contract" between 2 people (aka divorce).  And if that was all a true marriage was, a legal contract between 2 people, then it would not matter who those 2 people were, or 3 or 4 or 10 or 20.  

    Perhaps the OP will spend some time reading on what true marriage is all about.
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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 06:41:53 PM »
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  • .... it reads to me like he is trying to understand why the traditional teaching against homosexuals is so severe as compared to the modern day position which is so understanding of their "alternate lifestyle choice". 
    There is no evidence whatsover for such a "reading". Nice try though, anonymous poster.....


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    « Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 07:45:50 PM »
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  • Absolutely.  Robbery, rape, murder, etc. are all acts against the natural law - as is sodomy, a completely unnatural act.  

    Faggots who deal with their disorientation quietly and work toward incorporating God's Will Htcontreras86@gmail.com  

    However, the flamboyant, arrogant faggots who put their unnatural behavior on display, completely disavowing Almighty God's natural order, by pushing for "equality" and fake marriage should be imprisoned for the greater good of society.  
     
    I’m not sure I follow you.  Why should any tolerance be toward: “Faggots who deal with their disorientation quietly and work toward incorporating God’s Will alone”?  Faggots, REGARDLESS, should be dealt with swiftly and immediately!  According to Holy Scripture and ancient Tradition and Canon Law, faggots should not be tolerated to live - period.   Please explain yourself where you quote  “dealing with their disorientatation and work quietly toward incorporating God’s Will alone” is founded upon Church Law and Tradition?  Please name your sources to thisFICTIONal thinking.  I find NO such “law” or “Tradition” in Canon Law or Tradition.    Faggots need to be put to death according to Holy Scripture And Church Law.  There are NO exceptions.

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #18 on: January 12, 2018, 08:46:46 PM »
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  • Big slip here by the bloodthirsty anonymous troll. Can you find it?

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #19 on: January 19, 2018, 01:44:01 AM »
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  • In a hypothetical situation, is it acceptable for a government to allow civil gay marriages only on the condition that the Catholic Church would be protected under law and guaranteed to never be forced to perform a gay marriage? Why or why not?
    This issue of invalid marriages came up in the 16th century with Henry VIII and the Catholic Church still has not changed its stance on the invalidity of Henry VIII's 'marriage' to Anne Boleyn.

         


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    « Reply #20 on: January 19, 2018, 03:21:48 AM »
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  • Next is making sex abuse of children normal in society.  

    GENCJA GAZETA / REUTERS

    By MIKE McPHATE
    AUGUST 3, 2016

    Leaders of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender groups expressed dismay on Wednesday after Pope Francis said that schoolchildren are being taught they can choose their gender as part of what he called an “ideological colonization.”
    Francis was meeting privately with bishops in Poland last week when he broached the matter. “Today, in schools they are teaching this to children — to children! — that everyone can choose their gender,” he said, according to a transcript released by the Vatican on Tuesday.
    Marianne Duddy-Burke, the executive director of DignityUSA, a leading organization of L.G.B.T. Catholics, said the comments represented a “dangerous ignorance” about gender identity, which is no more a choice than height or hair color.
    “It’s very troubling that the pope would say this,” Ms. Duddy-Burke said on Wednesday. “It also shows that the pope doesn’t understand the danger that his words can mean for gender-nonconforming people, particularly those who live in countries with laws or cultural pressures that put these people at risk for violence.”


    In his remarks, the pope said the idea of choosing gender was being taught with schoolbooks supplied by influential donors and countries. He did not identify which.
    “This is terrible,” he said, according to the transcript.
    Francis, who is Argentine, also did not offer examples of classrooms using such a curriculum. But church analysts say he has long harbored resentment over so-called ideological colonialism, the notion that international groups offer aid to developing nations contingent upon the adoption of Western values.
    “It’s not all that clear who he’s mad at and what’s upsetting him,” said the Rev. Thomas J. Reese, a Jesuit priest and senior analyst for The National Catholic Reporter. “But there’s something underlying there. And I think it’s primarily that he feels that this kind of stuff is being pushed down their throats.” New York Times 

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #21 on: January 22, 2018, 08:56:11 AM »
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  • Next is making sex abuse of children normal in society.  

    GENCJA GAZETA / REUTERS

    By MIKE McPHATE
    AUGUST 3, 2016

    Leaders of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender groups expressed dismay on Wednesday after Pope Francis said that schoolchildren are being taught they can choose their gender as part of what he called an “ideological colonization.”
    Francis was meeting privately with bishops in Poland last week when he broached the matter. “Today, in schools they are teaching this to children — to children! — that everyone can choose their gender,” he said, according to a transcript released by the Vatican on Tuesday.
    Marianne Duddy-Burke, the executive director of DignityUSA, a leading organization of L.G.B.T. Catholics, said the comments represented a “dangerous ignorance” about gender identity, which is no more a choice than height or hair color.
    “It’s very troubling that the pope would say this,” Ms. Duddy-Burke said on Wednesday. “It also shows that the pope doesn’t understand the danger that his words can mean for gender-nonconforming people, particularly those who live in countries with laws or cultural pressures that put these people at risk for violence.”


    In his remarks, the pope said the idea of choosing gender was being taught with schoolbooks supplied by influential donors and countries. He did not identify which.
    “This is terrible,” he said, according to the transcript.
    Francis, who is Argentine, also did not offer examples of classrooms using such a curriculum. But church analysts say he has long harbored resentment over so-called ideological colonialism, the notion that international groups offer aid to developing nations contingent upon the adoption of Western values.
    “It’s not all that clear who he’s mad at and what’s upsetting him,” said the Rev. Thomas J. Reese, a Jesuit priest and senior analyst for The National Catholic Reporter. “But there’s something underlying there. And I think it’s primarily that he feels that this kind of stuff is being pushed down their throats.” New York Times

    Amoris Laetitiae explicitly excludes the possibility of "gay marriage" 

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #22 on: January 22, 2018, 09:14:59 AM »
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  • Homo Roman Emperor Nero married homo Pythagoras in a gay marriage. 
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras_(freedman)


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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #23 on: January 22, 2018, 09:36:28 AM »
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  • Homo Roman Emperor Nero married homo Pythagoras in a gay marriage.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras_(freedman)
    Historians pretty much agree, the Emperor Nero was insane. 

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #24 on: February 08, 2018, 08:36:17 PM »
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  • What should homosexuals do if they want to go to heaven after they die? As disgusting as their practices are, I'm sure Gods will is for them to convert. Is there anyone here willing to help someone trying to overcome these desires?

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    « Reply #25 on: February 08, 2018, 09:29:20 PM »
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  • What should homosexuals do if they want to go to heaven after they die? As disgusting as their practices are, I'm sure Gods will is for them to convert. Is there anyone here willing to help someone trying to overcome these desires?


    Might I suggest Joseph Sciambra’s website for such a person as you describe above? http://josephsciambra.com/
    He is a man who used to live a gay lifestyle... Now Catholic 


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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #26 on: February 09, 2018, 01:13:09 AM »
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  • What should homosexuals do if they want to go to heaven after they die? As disgusting as their practices are, I'm sure Gods will is for them to convert. Is there anyone here willing to help someone trying to overcome these desires?
    They should do what the rest of us do. REpent, pray and do penance for our sins, make use of the sacraments especially Confession and Holy Communion and live a chaste life with God's help. I would recommend the work of Courage to help them, though it is novus ordo.

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #27 on: February 09, 2018, 01:24:12 AM »
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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #28 on: February 09, 2018, 02:03:31 AM »
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  • What should homosexuals do if they want to go to heaven after they die? As disgusting as their practices are, I'm sure Gods will is for them to convert. Is there anyone here willing to help someone trying to overcome these desires?
    As with all sinners, if they respond to the grace of God and convert they can be saved.  

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    Re: Gay marriage
    « Reply #29 on: February 09, 2018, 09:21:55 AM »
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  • They should do what the rest of us do. REpent, pray and do penance for our sins, make use of the sacraments especially Confession and Holy Communion and live a chaste life with God's help. I would recommend the work of Courage to help them, though it is novus ordo.
    They don't because they're special!

     

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