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Offline songbird

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Re: gαy FSSP priests?
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 03:34:34 PM »
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    • Oh, I forgot to mention. FSSP are not priest, just the ordinary minister or presider.  You get what you get!
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #16 on: October 29, 2018, 03:40:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mithrandylan on October 29, 2018, 01:59:08 PM
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     people who go on forums and anonymously wonder if their priest is a fag do not have the best judgment.  I would not trust such a person to be able to tell the difference between a man who is effeminate and a man who is simply mild.  Those who look for trouble and scandal will find it.
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    I'm not the OP but I do take exception to your statement.
    A while back because of a post I made, someone at my chapel figured out it was me and disclosed it to the priest.  I now have to be very careful of what I post or I have to post it anonymously.
    No all anonymous posters are flakes.  Just because everyone doesn't see anything wrong with an anonymous post, doesn't mean the poster doesn't have a very legitimate reason for doing so.
    In this thread perhaps the OP had previously identified the chapel he attends and now his post could start a rumor and scandal if not done anonymously.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #17 on: October 29, 2018, 03:41:57 PM »
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #18 on: October 29, 2018, 03:49:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
    I believe that most people can tell the difference between meekness and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ effeminacy.


    While I was at SSPX seminary (St. Thomas Aquinas), a couple of seminarians were dismissed for exhibiting effeminacy in their mannerisms.
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    Sure.  By leaders in the organization who, owing to experience and training, were skilled at and regularly exposed to making those types of judgments (and even at that they sometimes failed miserably-- again, look at Urrigoity). 
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    I am generally suspicious of drive by scandals in the anonymous subforum, forgive me.  The lack of detail, the "chuck and run" tactics, etc.  This is purportedly a real situation, which makes discussing it different from discussing it in the abstract.  I worry that the OP isn't all that well grounded, so I'm not going to empower or enable him to cause a ruckus unless there should be one.  If I'm wrong about that, the advice from posters who've reached for their holsters will more than compensate for my mistake.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 03:50:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
    I'm not the OP but I do take exception to your statement.
    A while back because of a post I made, someone at my chapel figured out it was me and disclosed it to the priest.  I now have to be very careful of what I post or I have to post it anonymously.
    No all anonymous posters are flakes.  Just because everyone doesn't see anything wrong with an anonymous post, doesn't mean the poster doesn't have a very legitimate reason for doing so.
    In this thread perhaps the OP had previously identified the chapel he attends and now his post could start a rumor and scandal if not done anonymously.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #20 on: October 29, 2018, 04:04:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mithrandylan on October 29, 2018, 03:50:03 PM
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    All granted.
    And to be clear, I'm not taking issue with the bare fact that this was posted anonymously.  I agree with you (Miseremini) that this sort of thing would probably have to be posted anonymously.  It's the combination of it being anonymous and, especially, the OP not providing any actual evidence for the claim.  The OP was bare-bones with no substantiation, and repeated attempts to actually solicit information from the OP fell on deaf ears.  At that point he seemed to want to switch gears to talk about effeminacy and the FSSP in general-- a sort of goal post shifting very common when one realizes that one's initial claim is dubious.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #21 on: October 29, 2018, 06:23:11 PM »
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    • OP here.  

    Okay, apparently this is an uncommon thing to enter one's mind, and it's probably an imaginary problem.  Everyone seems happy with their priests.  Nevermind.  
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #22 on: October 29, 2018, 06:38:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
    OP here.  

    Okay, apparently this is an uncommon thing to enter one's mind, and it's probably an imaginary problem.  Everyone seems happy with their priests.  Nevermind.  

    So how do you want people to respond when there are no details?

    If you're convinced that they might be ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, you could keep your kids away from them (especially alone) and/or report them to someone in authority (anonymously if you have to) who does not appear to be effeminate.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #23 on: October 29, 2018, 06:39:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 06:38:32 PM
    So how do you want people to respond when there are no details?

    If you're convinced that they might be ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, you could keep your kids away from them (especially alone) and/or report them to someone in authority (anonymously if you have to) who does not appear to be effeminate.

    Are there ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in the FSSP?  Undoubtedly.

    Are the priests you refer to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  No one here is in a position to judge.

    What else do you want?
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #24 on: October 29, 2018, 06:39:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
    Are there ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in the FSSP?  Undoubtedly.

    Are they a threat to children?  Possibly.

    Are the priests you refer to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  No one here is in a position to judge.

    What else do you want?
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #25 on: October 29, 2018, 07:34:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
    OP here.  

    Okay, apparently this is an uncommon thing to enter one's mind, and it's probably an imaginary problem.  Everyone seems happy with their priests.  Nevermind.  
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    So now we basically have the truth.  It "entered your mind" and you're "not happy" with your priest.
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    Never mind indeed.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #26 on: October 29, 2018, 07:55:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 29, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
    I have suspicions that the priests and staff of an FSSP parish I've visited are gαy.  
    Keep a close eye on them and specially guard the altar servers, it is your duty, as one with an eye to see these things. Warn any parents that you see have boys who could be targets. If you are wrong, so what? Better to err in the side of cautions.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #27 on: October 29, 2018, 08:06:47 PM »
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    • We had a new arrival homo man, 20 years old, at my chapel and at first sight I was on his case watching his every move. Not one person in the chapel, including the pastor saw anything wrong. When I warned two parents, that the man had an eye on there children, one told me that the man had called his son, and the other said the man had come over to play with his son. There sons were like 13 years old. Naïve men.
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    « Reply #28 on: October 29, 2018, 08:07:07 PM »
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    • We had a new arrival homo man, 20 years old, at my chapel and at first sight I was on his case watching his every move. Not one person in the chapel, including the pastor saw anything wrong. When I warned two parents, that the man had an eye on there children, one told me that the man had called his son, and the other said the man had come over to play with his son. There sons were like 13 years old. Naïve men.
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    Re: gαy FSSP priests?
    « Reply #29 on: October 29, 2018, 08:12:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on October 29, 2018, 07:55:22 PM
    Keep a close eye on them and specially guard the altar servers, it is your duty, as one with an eye to see these things. Warn any parents that you see have boys who could be targets. If you are wrong, so what? Better to err in the side of cautions.
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    Unless the OP has something to go on besides "it entered his mind" that these people are homos, this is terrible advice.  If he is wrong and he's going about warning all the parents then he's just created a major scandal, ruined reputations, and possibly alienated people from religion.  It's not better to err on the side of caution unless he has a credible reason.  There is no "side of caution" in what you're recommending.  There's reckless abandon to ill-conceived prejudice with the effect of calumny and widespread scandal. 
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    We just watched a national circus where people's intuition about a man's demeanor reinforced pre-conceived, pre-judged conclusions about his sɛҳuąƖ deviance.  And I'm pretty sure we were all abhorred by it (and rightfully so).  And now there's a thread like this, with advice like this.
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