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For all those neo-cons in the Novus Ordo Church who were still in denial over Francis’ repeated affirmations that he opposes converting non-Catholics to Catholicism, “Pope” Jorge Bergoglio reiterated his position once more, this time in a conversation he had with Evangelical Protestant Brian Stiller, who is the Global Ambassador of the World Evangelical Alliance.
Stiller visited Francis in the Vatican in June 2014 and published a blog post about his encounter, entitled “Lunch with the Pope”, on July 9. There are two salient passages in Stiller’s account worth quoting:
We talked about Christians marginalized, pressed under the weight of government power or the majority presence of other faiths. He listened and then told a remarkable story. In his years in and out of Rome, he became friends with the pastor of a Pentecostal Church in Rome. In time he came to learn that the church and pastor felt the power and presence of the Catholic Church, with its weighty presence, obstructing their desire to grow and be a witness. “So,” he said, “this July I will preach in his church on a Sunday and offer an apology from my church for the hurt it has brought to their congregation.

It’s fair to ask what kind of Catholic Church we as Evangelicals want to see. At lunch I asked Pope Francis what his heart was for evangelism. He smiled, knowing what was behind my question. His comment was, “I’m not interested in converting Evangelicals to Catholicism. I want people to find Jesus in their own community. There are so many doctrines we will never agree on. Let’s not spend our time on those. Rather, let’s be about showing the love of Jesus.” (Of course Evangelicals do evangelize Catholics and Catholics do the same to us. However, that discussion we will raise another day.)
(Brian C. Stiller, “Lunch with the Pope”, Dispatches from the Global Village, July 9, 2014; red bold print added.)

So, in the first passage, Francis is quoted as saying that he will apologize to a Protestant congregation for the Catholic Church’s “oppressive presence” in Rome that apparently curbed the heretical sect’s influence and obstructed its efforts to recruit more people. By doing this, Francis once again demonstrates that he is not a Roman Catholic, because he can only do this under the supposition that non-Catholic religions and denominations have a right to exist and to preach their false teachings and recruit new adherents, which is, if not outright heresy, at the very least, a most grave and damnable error favoring heresy (see, for example, Pope Gregory XVI’s Encyclical Mirari Vos and Pope Pius IX’s Encyclical Quanta Cura).
In the second passage, Francis once more displays his wonderful candidness when he states explicitly: “I’m not interested in converting Evangelicals to Catholicism. I want people to find Jesus in their own community.” Well, isn’t that interesting — some time ago, Francis was saying you can’t find Christ outside the Church, something the usual neo-con apologists jumped on right away as a supposed reaffirmation by Francis of the dogma No Salvation Outside the Church.
Are you confused by Mr. Bergoglio? There’s a perfect explanation for this: He’s a Modernist, and Modernists love vagueness, contradiction, and ambiguity, whereas Catholics love clarity and certitude. Yet, this particular contradiction can actually be reconciled fairly easily when you realize that when Francis says “church”, he doesn’t necessarily mean “Catholic Church.” For him, all Protestant, Anglican, and Orthodox sects are also part of the church, as we pointed out in a post many months ago (see Francis says Christ not found outside the Church — What Does He Mean?). Once again, we have been proven right.
Francis stated furthermore: "There are so many doctrines we will never agree on. Let’s not spend our time on those.” This is noteworthy on two accounts: (1) It flatly contradicts the directives given by Pope Pius XII in 1949, according to which not one iota of Catholic truth is allowed to be denied, minimized, or glossed over when discussing religious matters with Protestants; (2) Doesn’t Francis’ assertion that they will never agree on “so many doctrines” run contrary to all the ecumenical efforts of the Vatican, which have doctrinal agreementsand “unity” as their stated goal?
Clearly, we have a Modernist at work here, and one who loves to hear himself talk. All this confusion starts to make sense, though, when you realize that Mr. Bergoglio is not a Catholic. That’s the key to understanding it all. His mission is to confuse people, to spread error, and to destroy Catholicism under the guise of being “merciful” and “humble.”

http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.U8CuF5SSyxo

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  • These are statements that, 60 years ago, would get a priest defrocked immediately, but since Bergoglio is the head, the lost crowd will take it as if were something holy.

    What a sad, sad time to be in. Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.


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    "The most evident mark of God's anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds. They abandon the things of God to devote themselves to the things of the world and, in their saintly calling of holiness, they spend their time in profane and worldly pursuits. When God permits such things, it is a very positive proof that He is thoroughly angry with His people and is visiting His most dreadful wrath upon them."

    -Saint John Eudes

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    “I’m not interested in converting Evangelicals to Catholicism. I want people to find Jesus in their own community. There are so many doctrines we will never agree on. Let’s not spend our time on those.


    This is coming from the phony who called trads self-absorbed retrogrades.

    Consider that for a moment. This is the man who pried apart a praying boy's hands.

    This man is a false preacher and a liar.


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    "The most evident mark of God's anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds. They abandon the things of God to devote themselves to the things of the world and, in their saintly calling of holiness, they spend their time in profane and worldly pursuits. When God permits such things, it is a very positive proof that He is thoroughly angry with His people and is visiting His most dreadful wrath upon them."

    -Saint John Eudes


    Okay Laramie


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  • Where is the link to Brian Stiller's blog post?

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    Where is the link to Brian Stiller's blog post?


    http://dispatchesfrombrian.com/2014/07/09/lunch-with-the-pope/


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  • In truth, what do you want him to convert others too?   The novus ordo?


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  • You would have to be Catholic to have any interest in converting someone to the true faith.  

     

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