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Offline Nadir

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2019, 01:42:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 12:14:03 AM
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #46 on: May 15, 2019, 06:52:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 12:10:47 AM

    If innocent people died, including Syrian forces, as reported by numerous sources, it was an immoral act. It was murder. The Syrian forces were the good guys fighting ISIS. To kill (murder) them in order to flush out ISIS, who deserved to be annihilated, is an evil deed. Even children and other civilians died.
     

    I don't compartmentalize murder. Those were real people with real families. Not a statistic.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #47 on: May 15, 2019, 06:52:45 AM »
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #48 on: May 15, 2019, 07:55:47 AM »
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    If innocent people died, including Syrian forces, as reported by numerous sources, it was an immoral act. It was murder. The Syrian forces were the good guys fighting ISIS. To kill (murder) them in order to flush out ISIS, who deserved to be annihilated, is an evil deed. Even children and other civilians died.
    I agree with you that the US has almost no business in the Middle East.  However, Syria is a war-zone.  People dying from collateral damage during a war is not the same as direct murder.  Assuming that Trump is actually fighting against ISIS, had we not gotten involved, then ISIS would be spread all over Syria and they would be slaughtering thousands.  If some innocent people die during a military strike against an enemy, this is a tragedy, but it's not murder.  If you want to argue that it's not a "just war", then I agree.  But global politics has blurred a lot of lines as to what constitutes a "threat" to a particular country, even on the opposite side of the world.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #49 on: May 15, 2019, 08:51:57 AM »
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    As I posted above, there were numerous reports that Syrian military personnel and civilians died because of the bombing. They weren't ISIS.
    Who reported that civilians died?  The mainstream media?  The same media that ideologically supports ISIS so that Syria can be a powder-keg for WW3, which is desired by the deep state...the same deep state that controls the media and funded/started ISIS to begin with?

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    To attack an airbase that has nothing to do with ISIS, and the result is the death of people who have nothing to do with ISIS, as a tactic to draw out ISIS more in a hubris, is still murder.
    You are correct, if the following assumptions are correct.  Assuming that the airbase was not related to ISIS.  Assuming that the "civilians" weren't foreign military who were secretly supporting ISIS.  Assuming that the true Syrian citizens hadn't left the area, since Trump and Assad had communicated previously about what was to be bombed.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #50 on: May 15, 2019, 09:37:11 AM »
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    • It is illegal for the US to be fighting in Syria and anywhere else. Congress has declared no wars.
    President Assad was popular in Syria before the US got involved. If the US wanted to go into Syria we should have had his invitation and supported him.
    The same for Iraq and Libya. We should have supported Saddam and Gaddafi. Iraq and Libya were great places for Catholics to live when these men were in power. What they had in common is that they were not in debt to the world bank or the IMF. Now they are disaster areas. Catholics have lived in the territory now called Iraq since the Church began. Since the overthrow of Saddam they are practically wiped out.
    The idea that any of these nations are or were threats to the USA is absurd. If the US had not gotten involved either there would have been no ISIS or Assad would have wiped out ISIS. Who do you think created and supplies ISIS?
    "Collateral Damage" is a euphemism for killing innocent persons.
    Venezuela is next. We should support the legitimate government not revolutionaries.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #51 on: May 15, 2019, 09:38:51 AM »
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    • I made that last post. I don't know why it says anon.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #52 on: May 15, 2019, 09:44:00 AM »
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    • FYI voting is mandatory in Australia. Citizens who do not vote are fined.
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    Re: Fr Taouk on voting
    « Reply #53 on: May 19, 2019, 06:05:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
    I support Trump wiping out ISIS, but he attacked a Syrian airbase that belonged to the Syrian military fighting ISIS over a pretext that "Assad used chemical weapons." As I posted above, there were numerous reports that Syrian military personnel and civilians died because of the bombing. They weren't ISIS. They were fighting ISIS. To attack an airbase that has nothing to do with ISIS, and the result is the death of people who have nothing to do with ISIS, as a tactic to draw out ISIS more in a hubris, is still murder.
    Hmmm! Come on......It is a widely known fact that the RUSSIANS wiped out ISIS from Syria and the US of A was/is actually adding all the terrorists ......!  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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