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Author Topic: Fr Taouk on voting  (Read 7194 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2019, 10:59:02 AM »
We're changing the debate here.  The original debate was over a 2 party alternative: Evil politician vs neutral/moderately good politician.  Mith says he's not obliged to vote, morally.  I disagree.

So, according to your principles, do I meet my obligation to vote if I write in a non-viable candidate?

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2019, 11:16:02 AM »
There's no such thing as a "non viable" candidate, unless you listen to the media, which uses psychology and fake polls to make people think that "so and so" doesn't have a chance.  If people voted for the best candidate instead of who has the best chance of winning, America would be better off.  Yes, if you vote for the best candidate, regardless of polls, you fulfill your obligation. 
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Another factor which people forget:  Typically, only the major races (president, congress, governor) are covered by the media with much effort.  Certainly these races are important, but there's usually only 2 candidates which have a chance here.  The major opportunity to change america is at the local/state level.  The races where no one knows the candidates too well and they are often forgotten (i.e. a state's secretary of state, or state auditor, state senate).  If people concentrated as much on these races as they do on the governor or US Congress, each state could be changed for the better, very rapidly.  This would have an effect on DC, as state's Attorney Generals and Governors are affected by the state congress and can affect the US Congress through legislation and lawsuits.
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My whole point is that if you get into this mindset where you only have to vote when a candidate "has a chance", or you don't have to vote if there's no good candidate, then you are probably going to avoid voting/caring on the local races, since you don't vote/care about the bigger ones.  Not following the local/state races is a major lost opportunity that America's middle class has squandered for the last 50 years.


Änσnymσus

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2019, 11:21:46 AM »
As of last night, Trump is strongly considering sending 120,000 American troops to the Persian Gulf area to wage war against Iran.
That's what voting does for America, it keeps the War Machine going.
Candidate Trump ran on "stop being the policemen of the world, and focus on the America"
Now, Trump is Israel's little orange bich.
Trump's Jew whore daughter and his Jew son-in-law make sure Netanyahu's commands are carried out by Trump.
Trump can never say "no" to his Jew whore daughter. Whatever she demands, Trump fights to make it happen. She's also behind Trump's global campaign to decriminalize sodomy.

What has Trump actually done to perpetuate, much less expand, America's military presence around the world?

ZERO.

Don't fall for the misinformation and misdirection that Trump has to use to throw off the Deep State and the Mainstream Media. Remember "I have a bigger nuke button than Kim Jong Un" and the Media went wild? But what actually *happened*? Trump has been secretly working out peace with many countries, using old-fashioned means that can't be spied on like physical snail-mail letters.

When it comes to actual deeds, and results, Trump is doing a great job. The best we can hope for at this point, at the stage we're in.

He has done everything he can in TWO MEASLY YEARS to roll back the American Empire, deep state, global police action and interference, of the US, etc. He needs more than a couple years to roll back 80+ years of pure corruption.

He has been quoted as saying he wants no more "endless wars". So far, he has only waged peace, not more wars. Why would he end several wars, only to start 1 or 2 more?

Matthew

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2019, 11:25:09 AM »
Remember when Trump pretended to believe the lies that Assad was a butcher and dictator? He launched several cruise missiles, and the MSM went wild? Even I was upset with him at first.

Then the truth came out.

Those missiles were all aimed at ISIS, and the proof was that Assad's forces were poised and ready to follow up the gains started by the missiles to take over more ISIS land. If they had been aimed at Assad's forces, it would have been the other way around.

Under Obama, ISIS took over most of Syria. With Russia's help, Assad is finally back in control of Syria.

Note that Trump is working with Russia (in a good way) too -- he's not drumbeating for WW3 nuclear war with Russia like Hillary and many Dems are.

Putin is pro-Russia and Trump is pro-America. They have one thing in common: nationalism, and they both have no use for the Deep State. They both want what is best for their respective countries. PROTIP: Nuclear war with a major nuclear power isn't good for one's country.

Trump has my support and my vote!

If you want more years to prepare for (inevitable?) WW3, or you want WW3 to be averted or at least delayed, every Catholic who loves his family should vote for Trump. He's our ONLY HUMAN HOPE.

Matthew

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Re: Fr Taouk on voting
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2019, 11:29:03 AM »
I don't care if Trump is pro-Israel. I'll take what I can get: a president that actually loves America.

I'm sure presidents have been pro-Israel for many decades. Trump is still rolling back the clock countless decades -- he'll be nice to Israel, but not at the expense of America like so many presidents in recent years. 

Trump wouldn't go along with a 9/11 fαℓѕє fℓαg attack like Bush did, even if it greatly benefited Israel. That's where Trump draws the line.