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Re: Fr. Hewko and Fr. Rafael joined forces?
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2022, 06:13:19 PM »
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  • You can't just say this without some examples as evidence.  Otherwise, this also borders on calumny.  It's one thing to argue that something is NOT evil, and quite another thing to justify evil.  In claiming that he justified evil, you're begging the question that what he was justifying was in fact evil.  What I suspect you mean is that Father Hewko argued that something you believe to be evil is not in fact evil.  One might be a mistake or error in judgment, while the other one indicates malice ... so it's very important that you be clear on what you mean by this.
    Gotta disagree here.
    Saying you "heard justification of evil from his mouth" is sufficient.  No one need agree with what you heard, nor should all things be repeated.

    For instance, Matthew recently stated "Fr. Raphael has a past" without explaining what that "past" is.  Is he committing calumny?


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    Re: Fr. Hewko and Fr. Rafael joined forces?
    « Reply #31 on: July 10, 2022, 07:23:04 PM »
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  • I should clarify.

    Those who know me, know that I don't mince words. If I mean unnatural vice, I will say so much more clearly. If I mean fαɢɢօt or fαɢɢօtry, I will say so.

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/the-truth-about-fr-raphael-arizaga-osb/

    I said "he has a past" because that best describes it. Maybe it's more accurate to say he carries "baggage"? Fr. Raphael is not a "tabula raza" or clean slate, with a perfect reputation. There are some issues with his past, particularly several monasteries (?) he left rather abruptly, and there were problems at said monasteries. I think the details might be found right here on CathInfo, though it's been a few years.

    Like I said: I don't recall all the details. So suffice to say: he has a past that would need looking into. And why is he an "independent priest" anyhow? Does he have any erroneous doctrine? If not, then why isn't he working with the Resistance bishops? Questions like that. That's all I was referring to.

    A priest can have serious problems that affect his apostolate and the good of souls, besides Sixth and Ninth (issues with purity). It's not as though maintaining celibacy and chastity mean you're 100% home free.

    I found the thread! 5 years ago.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/the-truth-about-fr-raphael-arizaga-osb/

    Carry on.


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    « Reply #32 on: July 10, 2022, 10:09:47 PM »
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  • Father Hewko is a zealous missionary priest, loved by many.

    His affiliation with the Fr. Joe Pfeiffer was a big mistake and he was way late (7 years) in discerning the occult nature of Fr. Joe's problems.

    Much evidence has been presented to support the charges that Pfeifferville had become a Santeria warlock's lair. 

    Father's renunciation of the Pfeifferville cult, would be a consolation, but Father also needs to submit himself to some level of clerical examination by an order of priestly fratres, preferably supervised by a Bishop.   In essence, he needs to be vetted and re-formed, if found lacking.

    Why?  Because, the Pfeiffer occult infestation is deep. We cannot precisely understand it.  It is part of the mystery of iniquity.
    The question that needs to be answered is why was Father deceived for so long?  Did the warlock put a curse on him?  Most likely... yes.

    Father Amorth explained the rubrics of diabolical activity, found on this link.  Father Amorth - Diabolical Activity
    The excerpt below, is one category that may describe most souls who are found wandering about the Pfeiffer compound these days.


     3. Diabolical Oppression:
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     “There is no possession, loss of consciousness, or involuntary action and word, ” just severe to mild events that plague the individual. Fr. Amorth points to Job’s severe afflictions and St. Paul’s thorn in his flesh (II Cor 12:7). Whereas “possession is rare,” Fr. Amorth reveals that he and his fellow exorcists “run into a great number of people who have been struck by the devil in their health, jobs, or relationships.”




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    « Reply #33 on: July 10, 2022, 11:35:37 PM »
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  • Father Hewko is a zealous missionary priest, loved by many.

    His affiliation with the Fr. Joe Pfeiffer was a big mistake and he was way late (7 years) in discerning the occult nature of Fr. Joe's problems.

    Much evidence has been presented to support the charges that Pfeifferville had become a Santeria warlock's lair. 

    Father's renunciation of the Pfeifferville cult, would be a consolation, but Father also needs to submit himself to some level of clerical examination by an order of priestly fratres, preferably supervised by a Bishop.  In essence, he needs to be vetted and re-formed, if found lacking.

    Why?  Because, the Pfeiffer occult infestation is deep. We cannot precisely understand it.  It is part of the mystery of iniquity.
    The question that needs to be answered is why was Father deceived for so long?  Did the warlock put a curse on him?  Most likely... yes.

    Father Amorth explained the rubrics of diabolical activity, found on this link.  Father Amorth - Diabolical Activity
    The excerpt below, is one category that may describe most souls who are found wandering about the Pfeiffer compound these days.


     3. Diabolical Oppression:
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     “There is no possession, loss of consciousness, or involuntary action and word, ” just severe to mild events that plague the individual. Fr. Amorth points to Job’s severe afflictions and St. Paul’s thorn in his flesh (II Cor 12:7). Whereas “possession is rare,” Fr. Amorth reveals that he and his fellow exorcists “run into a great number of people who have been struck by the devil in their health, jobs, or relationships.”

    And some who spent time there.  How do we get rid of diabolical oppression?

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    « Reply #34 on: July 11, 2022, 12:42:24 AM »
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  • Sounds like the poison of the Boston cult still flows through Fr. Hewko's veins, if what you say is true.

    Fr. Pfeiffer took a very extremist and CONTRADICTORY position on the Crisis in the Church. In most ways, he sounded like a Sedevacantist. But actually the Sedevacantist position is more coherent than Fr. Pfeiffer's position. And Fr. P certainly diverges from +ABL. But then Fr. P attacks Sedevacantism with a passion -- except when he uses Sedevacantist bishops for Orders. It's hard to know WHAT he really believes. Probably whatever the latest potential donor with deep pockets firmly believes...

    He diverged from Archbishop Lefebvre, who he claimed to follow, while accusing his "competitors" of being unfaithful to +ABL's position and work. But +ABL never said the Novus Ordo was always and in all places invalid. Nor did he say that miracles were impossible outside the world of the Traditional Movement, after the year 1969.

    We've discussed Valtorta plenty of times here and I don't care to have another thread on it at this time. Suffice to say: YES you can work closely with Bishop Williamson and disagree with him about Valtorta. Or Garabandal for that matter. +W has private opinions and he doesn't force them on others as a pre-condition for working with him, or for not getting attacked by him. That is indeed how Fr. Pfeiffer operates -- you have to fully agree with him, or it's war! But that's not how +W operates.

    Unlike certain cult leaders *cough Fr. Pfeiffer cough*, Bp. Williamson is able to distinguish between dogma and opinion. And between denial of dogma (heresy) and disagreement on matters of opinion (completely permitted).

    But of course, Fr. Pfeiffer is a human being, and so he ends up being a classic case of PROJECTION -- removing flaws from yourself and projecting them onto your adversary. But that still doesn't make it true!

    And if these vagus priests can't get past the personality and quirks of +W, then go with another good Resistance bishop. Might I suggest Bp. Faure, Bp. Zendejas, or Bp. Thomas Aquinas?

    Perhaps in the mind of Fr. Pfeiffer, +Williamson is a heretic for advocating that "one can go to the NO if it helps their spiritual life". Since +Faure, +Zendejas and +Thomas Aquinas continues to work with +Williamson and didn't denounce that statement, anyone who supports +Williamson is persona non grata.


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    « Reply #35 on: July 11, 2022, 12:49:55 AM »
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  • This is actually a pretty solid point.  Bishop Williamson isn't really accepting submission from priests.  As for this "totally novel idea," I actually think it's very fitting given the Crisis.  Bishop Williamson sees the danger of bishops setting up as if they had real authority or jurisdiction.  He COULD have started a new rival Society, of which he would have been the unquestioned leader, but he chose not to.  Even before he was expelled from SSPX, he would often say that the SSPX was an artificial authority structure and that the only thing that was holding it together was the person of Archbishop Lefebvre.  This speaks well of Bishop Williamson's humility, as he has no desire to form some organization that he believes will "save" the Church ... whereas you have +?Pfeiffer believing that his group IS the Church (for all intents and purposes).  Great contrast there.

    +Williamson did not start any rival society, but +Faure is the Superior General of SAJM (Euro-centric), +Zendejas is a member of the SAJM (US-centric) while Fr. Chazal is the Superior General of MCSPX (Asia & ANZ).

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    Re: Fr. Hewko and Fr. Rafael joined forces?
    « Reply #36 on: July 11, 2022, 06:50:42 AM »
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  • Perhaps in the mind of Fr. Pfeiffer, +Williamson is a heretic for advocating that "one can go to the NO if it helps their spiritual life". Since +Faure, +Zendejas and +Thomas Aquinas continues to work with +Williamson and didn't denounce that statement, anyone who supports +Williamson is persona non grata.

    Well, in the mind of Fr. Pfeiffer, Bishop Webster is also a heretic, for SVism and Feeneyism, but that didn't stop him from approaching the bishop for episcopal consecration.

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    « Reply #37 on: July 11, 2022, 09:10:11 AM »
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  • Well, in the mind of Fr. Pfeiffer, Bishop Webster is also a heretic, for SVism and Feeneyism, but that didn't stop him from approaching the bishop for episcopal consecration.
    And for allowing webster to say mass frequently at olmc. 


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    Re: Fr. Hewko and Fr. Rafael joined forces?
    « Reply #38 on: July 11, 2022, 02:00:56 PM »
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  • Not everything is a matter of dogma or heresy.

    My Liturgy professor used to throw away copies of the "Pieta" booklet he found at the Seminary literature table that people had placed there. He told the whole Liturgy class he considered the Pieta "Spiritual shit". And yes, that's a direct quote.

    Is the Pieta heretical? I've seen it at many SSPX chapels. Meanwhile this particular professor felt very strongly about it.
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    Wait, he objected to the Pieta??! Who would object to a magnificent statue of Our Lady that half a millennium of popes have kept in St. Peter's Basilica for the veneration of the faithful??

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    « Reply #39 on: July 11, 2022, 02:30:24 PM »
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    Wait, he objected to the Pieta??!
    No, he objected to the book with the various prayers and devotions, not the statue.

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    « Reply #40 on: July 11, 2022, 02:39:25 PM »
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  • No, he objected to the book with the various prayers and devotions, not the statue.
    Oh ... and why was that? I'm not familiar with this book.


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    « Reply #41 on: July 11, 2022, 03:27:30 PM »
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  • It was too sappy and sentimental to him, I guess.

    BTW I thought my post was quite clear -- I said "Pieta booklet" once, then the rest of the post I said "Pieta" for short. I thought I was quite clear in defining what I was talking about.
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    « Reply #42 on: July 11, 2022, 03:52:34 PM »
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  • BTW I thought my post was quite clear -- I said "Pieta booklet" once, then the rest of the post I said "Pieta" for short. I thought I was quite clear in defining what I was talking about.
    I thought so, too.

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  • It was too sappy and sentimental to him, I guess.

    BTW I thought my post was quite clear -- I said "Pieta booklet" once, then the rest of the post I said "Pieta" for short. I thought I was quite clear in defining what I was talking about.

    I heard a priest object to it once, because it seemed to him that so many of the prayers in it had some sort of "promise" - "Say this prayer X times at such-and-such time of day for Y days & you're guaranteed to get Z!"   To him, it was like making God into a "vending machine".  

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  • I heard a priest object to it once, because it seemed to him that so many of the prayers in it had some sort of "promise" - "Say this prayer X times at such-and-such time of day for Y days & you're guaranteed to get Z!"  To him, it was like making God into a "vending machine". 
    Indulgences?