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Fr. Francis Gallagher Conditional Ordination info?
« on: December 09, 2018, 07:51:27 AM »
I live in Australia.  There is a new priest coming to visit the Resistance here and we have been trying to find out more about him.  I thought I'd ask the experts on CathInfo about him.  His name is Fr Francis Gallagher and he was ordained in the Novus Ordo in the diocese of Peoria.  He then went to SSPX (not sure though if he had re-education?) and now is in the Resistance.  It is claimed on your forum that he was re-ordained, however, there is no date or place of ordination given and no evidence in the form of photographs or certificate.


What I would like to know is, where and when did his re-ordination take place?  If he is not re-ordained or if he provides no evidence of being re-ordained I would be obliged in conscience to let others know this.  I would also like contact details of a lay person who witnessed the ordination if that be possible so the problem can be solved once and for all and the priests can be kept honest.  

Thank you.
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Re: Fr. Francis Gallagher Conditional Ordination info?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2018, 10:29:39 AM »
Very important questions!
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Re: Fr. Francis Gallagher Conditional Ordination info?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2018, 11:32:06 AM »
From what I remember hearing, conditional ordinations are/were kept very hush hush, so you may not be able to obtain contact with any "witnesses". Much less "certificates". You be better off hunting down the administering bishop to confirm it.

From what I understand, you dont get a "certificate" for conditional ordination, confirmation or baptism since its given under the pretext that you were not "certain" of the first one. So the original date and cert for that sacrament will be the only one a person has. Can you imagine having two or three baptismal certificates from different periods of your life? Sounds a touch wacky to me.
   My Father has conditional confirmation, he didn't get a certificate. I dont the such certs are in existence.

The Orthodox probably have such things, since every sect in schism with the others wants to re-chrismate you when you come to them.
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Re: Fr. Francis Gallagher Conditional Ordination info?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 01:21:08 PM »
Quote from: Student of Qi on December 09, 2018, 11:32:06 AM
From what I remember hearing, conditional ordinations are/were kept very hush hush, so you may not be able to obtain contact with any "witnesses". Much less "certificates". You be better off hunting down the administering bishop to confirm it.

From what I understand, you dont get a "certificate" for conditional ordination, confirmation or baptism since its given under the pretext that you were not "certain" of the first one. So the original date and cert for that sacrament will be the only one a person has. Can you imagine having two or three baptismal certificates from different periods of your life? Sounds a touch wacky to me.
   My Father has conditional confirmation, he didn't get a certificate. I dont the such certs are in existence.

The Orthodox probably have such things, since every sect in schism with the others wants to re-chrismate you when you come to them.
From what I have heard, the different sects in schism within Orthodox usually do not give certificates for a conditional baptism or chrismation as some laity and even clergy have a tendency to switch synods repeatedly, not being sure which synod is "valid."
I suppose the fear is that someone might post all these certificates on their office or living room wall saying to their friends: surely one of these certificates is valid and St. Peter will let  me through those pearly gates.  (I was just kidding here.) Nevertheless, issuing these conditional certificates might just worsen attacks of scrupulosity
It is best to do diligent research before plunging into another baptismal font. This is the value of having forums like Cath Info where research can be shared and confirmed.
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Re: Fr. Francis Gallagher Conditional Ordination info?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2018, 04:00:50 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous on December 09, 2018, 07:51:27 AM
I live in Australia.  There is a new priest coming to visit the Resistance here and we have been trying to find out more about him.  
Ask him when you see him. If he gets upset, then you know he is not conditionally ordained. Why should a resistance priest be cautious about this? To not insult the Novus Ordo? To protect the SSPX? If he gets upset, then you know .
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