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Title: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 10:25:57 AM
Does anyone know how to contact Fr. Dominic Crawford? This comes from a supporter of his positions. One baptism for the remission of sins, no contraception, etc. I think he runs a chapel in Minnesota. Thank you. God bless.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
Isn’t he the Feeneyite who says Pius XII erred on NFP (ie., NFP is never, ever allowed)?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:03:44 AM
There's someone here who knows him, but it would help if you could actually use your forum name so the person could send you contact information by PM rather than posting it publicly.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:04:08 AM
Isn’t he the Feeneyite who says Pius XII erred on NFP (ie., NFP is never, ever allowed)?

If so, then good for him.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:12:31 AM
Isn’t he the Feeneyite who says Pius XII erred on NFP (ie., NFP is never, ever allowed)?
Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. It is so sad and incomprehensible that anyone who calls themselves Catholic would ever deny this, especially saying it every week. And what an insult to God it must be to practice "natural" contraception and attack people for saying it is wrong. Sex is for procreation, not for whatever pro-NFP people think it is. Being disciplinary, yes a Pope can err on that. But the question was about Fr. Crawford.
:pray:May Our Lord convert them from their errors and have mercy on us.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: ca246 on August 17, 2020, 11:15:49 AM
There's someone here who knows him, but it would help if you could actually use your forum name so the person could send you contact information by PM rather than posting it publicly.
They can PM me.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:33:39 AM
Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. It is so sad and incomprehensible that anyone who calls themselves Catholic would ever deny this, especially saying it every week. And what an insult to God it must be to practice "natural" contraception and attack people for saying it is wrong. Sex is for procreation, not for whatever pro-NFP people think it is. Being disciplinary, yes a Pope can err on that. But the question was about Fr. Crawford.
:pray:May Our Lord convert them from their errors and have mercy on us.
Is God one god, or three gods?  Or is he one god in three divine persons?  Same with the three forms of one baptism.  It’s terrible that Feeneyite’s are allowed to proliferate their ignorance on this forum.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:51:25 AM
Is God one god, or three gods?  Or is he one god in three divine persons?  Same with the three forms of one baptism.  

Now I've heard it all.

BoDers are sloppy.  If you want to believe in BoD/BoB, you need to say that it's three modes of receiving Baptism, not three Baptisms.  But 90% of BoD theory is slop and confusion.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:52:02 AM
Now I've heard it all.

BoDers are sloppy.  If you want to believe in BoD/BoB, you need to say that it's three modes of receiving Baptism, not three Baptisms.  But 90% of BoD theory is slop and confusion.

Just like you would never say that there are 3 Gods.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 11:54:37 AM
Is God one god, or three gods?  Or is he one god in three divine persons?  Same with the three forms of one baptism.  It’s terrible that Feeneyite’s are allowed to proliferate their ignorance on this forum.
So says one who is themself sacramentally baptized. :facepalm: 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
Now I've heard it all.

BoDers are sloppy.  If you want to believe in BoD/BoB, you need to say that it's three modes of receiving Baptism, not three Baptisms.  But 90% of BoD theory is slop and confusion.
Except that I DID say its one baptism and not three baptisms.  No wonder the Feeneyites struggle, if they can't even read a 2-sentence post on the subject properly.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:09:37 PM
Is God one god, or three gods?  Or is he one god in three divine persons?  Same with the three forms of one baptism.  It’s terrible that Feeneyite’s are allowed to proliferate their ignorance on this forum.
Did you mean "Feeneyites" and "propagate" instead of "Feeneyite’s" and "proliferate" in your reply? Praise be to God! I think He might have made your error manifest in those displays of ignorance. If you abandon all that pretension, blasphemously comparing the Trinity to Baptism, and innocently look at the statement of the Nicene Creed, you can come to only one conclusion. The forms might be different in different rites, but water is always to be used. May Our Lord have mercy on you for spreading such heresies.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:14:53 PM
Why doesn't Fr. Crawford make it easier to get ahold of himself>?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:37:23 PM
Did you mean "Feeneyites" and "propagate" instead of "Feeneyite’s" and "proliferate" in your reply? Praise be to God! I think He might have made your error manifest in those displays of ignorance. If you abandon all that pretension, blasphemously comparing the Trinity to Baptism, and innocently look at the statement of the Nicene Creed, you can come to only one conclusion. The forms might be different in different rites, but water is always to be used. May Our Lord have mercy on you for spreading such heresies.
What a moron.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:51:21 PM
If you do get a hold of him, ask if he has a video of his ordination.  It's been said that his ordaining bishop was Neal Webster.  Considering how incompetent and careless Webster is with administering Holy Orders, as manifested in his invalid attempt at consecrating Fr. Pfeiffer, it would be rash to assume his competency and care was any different when he attempted other ordinations.  (Not to mention the doubts surrounding the validity of Webster's own orders).
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Dominic Crawford has a small ministry in Minnesota, where he services his mom's family and another family.  Mass is said (or not, given that Neal Webster ordained Crawford and its doubtful that Webster even has the right orders, and even more doubtful that he is competent enough to transmit orders).  The community is very divided and it appears that Crawford is following Fr. Feeney in more than just doctrine, but in CULT tactics: most of the people who attend his mass have very purposefully severed ties with their other traditional Catholic relatives, drinking is not allowed, confessions are when Crawford allows you to go (he has made a schedule and you can only go when it is your turn-- whether you need to or not), and Holy Communion is intermittently REFUSED to the faithful for their own spiritual growth.  Talk to him about any of this and he will simply tell you to pray the fifteen decade rosary and all your questions will be satisfied.  If you do and you still have questions, you have not prayed enough.  He is a charlatan who preys on pious and simple people, manipulating them unscrupulously. It is fashionable, apparently, for people online to defend him.  But I do not think they know him.  If they did, they would realize he is a TOTAL embarrassment to those who simply wish to believe as Fr. Feeney did.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 02:03:52 PM
Dominic Crawford has a small ministry in Minnesota, where he services his mom's family and another family.  Mass is said (or not, given that Neal Webster ordained Crawford and its doubtful that Webster even has the right orders, and even more doubtful that he is competent enough to transmit orders).  The community is very divided and it appears that Crawford is following Fr. Feeney in more than just doctrine, but in CULT tactics: most of the people who attend his mass have very purposefully severed ties with their other traditional Catholic relatives, drinking is not allowed, confessions are when Crawford allows you to go (he has made a schedule and you can only go when it is your turn-- whether you need to or not), and Holy Communion is intermittently REFUSED to the faithful for their own spiritual growth.  Talk to him about any of this and he will simply tell you to pray the fifteen decade rosary and all your questions will be satisfied.  If you do and you still have questions, you have not prayed enough.  He is a charlatan who preys on pious and simple people, manipulating them unscrupulously. It is fashionable, apparently, for people online to defend him.  But I do not think they know him.  If they did, they would realize he is a TOTAL embarrassment to those who simply wish to believe as Fr. Feeney did.
LOL!  There's only two families, yet the small chapel is "very divided!"
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 02:34:21 PM
LOL!  There's only two families, yet the small chapel is "very divided!"
:facepalm:
LOL, yep, sounds like a cult alright.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 02:46:24 PM
LOL, yep, sounds like a cult alright.
Is there a similarity between Pfeifferville and what Fr. Crawford is doing?  In both cases the whole ministry is propped up by just a family or two.  And in both cases Neal Webster gets dragged out of his basement to provide the orders needed to make the whole thing look legitimate to the followers.  Seems suspicious.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Except that I DID say its one baptism and not three baptisms.  No wonder the Feeneyites struggle, if they can't even read a 2-sentence post on the subject properly.

Logic, please.  :facepalm:  You were attacking Feeneyites for the CRITICISM they level against those who refer to 3 Baptisms.  
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 04:05:35 PM
Logic, please.  :facepalm:  You were attacking Feeneyites for the CRITICISM they level against those who refer to 3 Baptisms.  
Presumably, English is not your native language, given your struggles here.  But then again, where does one find Feeneyite’s, but in English-speaking countries? 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Cryptinox on August 17, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
I have talked to Fr. Crawford on the phone twice and he seems like a very nice man. He offered to send me a copy of Glories of  Mary or the Secret of the Rosary don't know which. I have his phone number if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
I have his phone number if anyone wants it.
Yes, please. Or E-mail.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: ca246 on August 17, 2020, 04:49:06 PM
Yes, please. Or E-mail.
Sorry, I forgot to click the box. That was me.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
The situation up in MN is a sad one.  What was once a unified CMRI parish, consisting mostly of one large, tight-knit family, including the parents, 13 children, and over 40 grandchildren has been shattered since Fr. Crawford's arrival in 2017.  Half the children and their families continue on with the CMRI parish, and half follow Crawford.  Those that follow Crawford shun their family members that don't follow him, having declared that they are going to Hell when they chose to stay with CMRI and not follow Crawford, and continuing to make such declarations in the rare occasions they cross paths.  They won't show up when invited to family gatherings, and won't allow the children that go to CMRI, their nephews and nieces, visit or play with their own children.  They've told their other family members that continued with the CMRI that they can't associate with any of them in any unnecessary way until they change their beliefs to align with theirs.

The followers of Fr. Crawford also developed new strange beliefs, ranging from rejecting the existence of Limbo, to declaring the color pink as being evil and from the devil.  Much of their new focus is on modesty, scandal, and fraternal correction.  They hold that shorts and short-sleeve shirts are sinful and scandalous, even if worn by boys or men.  They have openly rebuked their sisters as being in mortal sin for causing them scandal simply because they could see their ankle, as they hold that dresses that don't cover a woman's or girl's ankle are sinfully scandalous.  They believe they are obliged under pain of sin to correct anyone they think is sinning at all times and all places, no matter the circumstances, even if it's a stranger in public.  One young adult man who follows Crawford told his brother he couldn't go skiing with him because there would be girls wearing ski pants, and he believed he would be sinning if he refrained from telling them they were sinning.  That same young man later told his brother he was mortally sinning for wearing shorts.  He has now moved to shunning his brother, who was his closest friend all his life, won't talk to him when he's near, and, like his other siblings that follow Crawford, shuns all his other siblings and family members that stuck with the CMRI.  

Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.  They claimed this is how they knew to follow Crawford and reject the CMRI as evil.  In conjunction with this, they disdain and distrust Catholic books, saying books have no value, as no books can be trusted to not have been corrupted, including all bibles or writings of the popes and councils.  They've said the only knowledge that can be trusted is that which God gives to them directly in prayer, speaking to their heart, and that they know it's from God, rather than from their own feelings or the devil, because, "if you're humble enough, you'll know."

I'm told Fr. Crawford is very charming.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2020, 03:36:17 PM
The situation up in MN is a sad one. 

I'm told Fr. Crawford is very charming.
From one cult to another.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on August 19, 2020, 06:23:57 PM
The situation up in MN is a sad one.  What was once a unified CMRI parish, consisting mostly of one large, tight-knit family, including the parents, 13 children, and over 40 grandchildren has been shattered since Fr. Crawford's arrival in 2017.  Half the children and their families continue on with the CMRI parish, and half follow Crawford.  Those that follow Crawford shun their family members that don't follow him, having declared that they are going to Hell when they chose to stay with CMRI and not follow Crawford, and continuing to make such declarations in the rare occasions they cross paths.  They won't show up when invited to family gatherings, and won't allow the children that go to CMRI, their nephews and nieces, visit or play with their own children.  They've told their other family members that continued with the CMRI that they can't associate with any of them in any unnecessary way until they change their beliefs to align with theirs.

The followers of Fr. Crawford also developed new strange beliefs, ranging from rejecting the existence of Limbo, to declaring the color pink as being evil and from the devil.  Much of their new focus is on modesty, scandal, and fraternal correction.  They hold that shorts and short-sleeve shirts are sinful and scandalous, even if worn by boys or men.  They have openly rebuked their sisters as being in mortal sin for causing them scandal simply because they could see their ankle, as they hold that dresses that don't cover a woman's or girl's ankle are sinfully scandalous.  They believe they are obliged under pain of sin to correct anyone they think is sinning at all times and all places, no matter the circumstances, even if it's a stranger in public.  One young adult man who follows Crawford told his brother he couldn't go skiing with him because there would be girls wearing ski pants, and he believed he would be sinning if he refrained from telling them they were sinning.  That same young man later told his brother he was mortally sinning for wearing shorts.  He has now moved to shunning his brother, who was his closest friend all his life, won't talk to him when he's near, and, like his other siblings that follow Crawford, shuns all his other siblings and family members that stuck with the CMRI.  

Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.  They claimed this is how they knew to follow Crawford and reject the CMRI as evil.  In conjunction with this, they disdain and distrust Catholic books, saying books have no value, as no books can be trusted to not have been corrupted, including all bibles or writings of the popes and councils.  They've said the only knowledge that can be trusted is that which God gives to them directly in prayer, speaking to their heart, and that they know it's from God, rather than from their own feelings or the devil, because, "if you're humble enough, you'll know."

I'm told Fr. Crawford is very charming.
If this is true, it is a prime example of how heretics form their own religion. If this is true, this alleged heretic should be shunned by all Catholics.
“ In conjunction with this, they disdain and distrust Catholic books, saying books have no value, as no books can be trusted to not have been corrupted, including all bibles or writings of the popes and councils.”

Are these people that stupid to believe this?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on August 20, 2020, 09:07:48 AM
I am very reluctant to accept internet rumors for truth in terms of what Fr. Crawford believes.  Some might be true, some false, and other stuff could be exaggeration based on spin put on things by his followers.  So who really knows?

I suspect that one major issue here is the quality of training Fr. Crawford received.  I doubt that he received anywhere near a full seminary training through Bishop Webster.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 02:41:29 PM
Does someone know the relations between Bishop Webster and Father Crawford... do they see "eye to eye" on every issue?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 02:45:29 PM
What a moron.
If you are one of those anti-Catholic deniers of the Creed: what a lack of charity. You must hate St. Paul also.
If you agree with the Creed: Yes, what a m***n, he even spelled "god" with a lowercase "g"!
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on August 20, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
Does someone know the relations between Bishop Webster and Father Crawford... do they see "eye to eye" on every issue?

I have heard that Fr. Crawford did NOT agree with Bishop Webster's decision to consecrate a non-Feeneyite and non-sedevacantist (in fact, anti-Feeneyite and anti-sedevacantist), that's he a bit more firm on that particular issue than Bishop Webster is.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
I have heard that Fr. Crawford did NOT agree with Bishop Webster's decision to consecrate a non-Feeneyite and non-sedevacantist (in fact, anti-Feeneyite and anti-sedevacantist), that's he a bit more firm on that particular issue than Bishop Webster is.
who told you that?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on August 20, 2020, 07:30:48 PM
who told you that?

Someone who knows him told me that by PM, but I do not feel at liberty to reveal his identity.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 08:03:44 PM
Someone who knows him told me that by PM, but I do not feel at liberty to reveal his identity.
so more rumors?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
I am very reluctant to accept internet rumors for truth in terms of what Fr. Crawford believes.  Some might be true, some false, and other stuff could be exaggeration based on spin put on things by his followers.  So who really knows?

I suspect that one major issue here is the quality of training Fr. Crawford received.  I doubt that he received anywhere near a full seminary training through Bishop Webster.
He was kicked out of CMRI in 2017 iirc. He was ordained a deacon by Pivarunas in 2012 so he was there for at least 5 years.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Cryptinox on August 20, 2020, 09:22:45 PM
Someone who knows him told me that by PM, but I do not feel at liberty to reveal his identity.
I told him that. I was told about Bishop Webster consecrating Pfeiffer a day beforehand. I talked to Fr. Dominic Crawford about the consecration after it occurred and he told me he won'
t work with Bishop Webster anymore until he denounces his consecration since according to him that was an external profession of Communion with a dude who believes in 3 baptisms. He may very well be more anti una cum than Bishop Sanborn since he seems to be against passive participation at the NO or going to a chapel affiliated with Sanborn. Oddly enough all the anti BOD priests (not bishops) I've talked to are anti una cum.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Cryptinox on August 20, 2020, 09:24:53 PM
Does someone know the relations between Bishop Webster and Father Crawford... do they see "eye to eye" on every issue?
They do not. Fr. Crawford is not willing to work with any group that is pro BOD or non sede from what I understand. Fr. Crawford also does not think that one can be justified but not saved by the desire for baptism alone.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
Does Fr. Crawford have any non-dogmatic positions, I mean does he have any views that he would admit are debatable?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2020, 01:37:55 PM
In correction to the poster who said Rev Crawford was ordained in 2012 a deacon, no, he was ordained a deacon by Bp Pivarunas in May of 2016, having entered seminary in the Fall of 2011. His (at least expressed) change in belief surfaced shortly thereafter. There was a separation from the CMRI later in that year.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2020, 01:39:13 PM
His separation may have been in early 17.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on August 25, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
In correction to the poster who said Rev Crawford was ordained in 2012 a deacon, no, he was ordained a deacon by Bp Pivarunas in May of 2016, having entered seminary in the Fall of 2011. His (at least expressed) change in belief surfaced shortly thereafter. There was a separation from the CMRI later in that year.

Now, do some of his strange rigoristic beliefs (reported here) about modesty or associating with people outside the group somehow tie in to the CMRI?  There were reports of similar mentalities during the Shuckhart years.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2020, 05:16:31 PM
LOL!  There's only two families, yet the small chapel is "very divided!"
:facepalm:
He should surrender himself to the authority of Pope Michael, then there’d be three families 🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: SAP1571 on September 03, 2020, 01:32:16 AM
Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum. It is so sad and incomprehensible that anyone who calls themselves Catholic would ever deny this, especially saying it every week. And what an insult to God it must be to practice "natural" contraception and attack people for saying it is wrong. Sex is for procreation, not for whatever pro-NFP people think it is. Being disciplinary, yes a Pope can err on that. But the question was about Fr. Crawford.
:pray:May Our Lord convert them from their errors and have mercy on us.
Poor St. Thomas Aquinas, poor St. Alphonsus Liguori, poor St. Robert Bellarmine... They were so ignorant of theology that they didn't even know the Creed...
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2020, 08:31:40 AM
Now, do some of his strange rigoristic beliefs (reported here) about modesty or associating with people outside the group somehow tie in to the CMRI?  There were reports of similar mentalities during the Shuckhart years.
quite the opposite, and Fr. Crawford has been very consistent in condemning the CMRI for their lack of rigor.  For example, the CMRI schools educate boys and girls together.  They even, I believe, take recess together.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on September 03, 2020, 08:52:28 AM
quite the opposite, and Fr. Crawford has been very consistent in condemning the CMRI for their lack of rigor.  For example, the CMRI schools educate boys and girls together.  They even, I believe, take recess together.

Good to know.  Now, on that particular point, many Traditional Catholic schools have no choice but to co-educate boys and girls due to logistics ... not enough students and/or teachers to be able to pull it off any other way.  Still better than most of the alternatives.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2020, 01:39:32 PM
Ultra-rigorous-austere-and-spiritual separatist groups like these remind me of what Don Diego (St. Dominic’s bishop, mentor, and closest companion) said about the Albigenses:
 
"The heretics attracted men by persuasive means, by preaching, and a great outward show of sanctity...  They seduce simple souls with the appearances of poverty and austerity..."
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Cryptinox on November 15, 2020, 05:31:19 PM
It looks like a lot of the stuff said in this thread about Fr. Crawford is true. Here is an email I got from a friend in Texas.

Quote
"A lady at St. Jude's had a daughter run off and join Father Crawford's church up in Minnesota. She actually confirmed pretty much everything the CathInfo poster said about him, unfortunately. She said he makes all his parishioners pray the entire rosary daily (which in itself is not bad, but we're talking in the sense that they use it for spiritual discernment, e.g. if you have a problem you should just pray the rosary and your concern will be answered, and if not, then you must not be doing it right), and that he calls them every single day to check on them, teach, etc. She said that he had visited them initially and that her daughter got hooked. I am guessing he, maybe like the Dimonds, has an air about him that just draws a certain kind of person to him, because it's almost like this daughter, according to the lady's testimony, was enchanted and follows anything and everything he says. Next thing she knew, she said, her daughter was packing up and moving her own family to Minnesota to get a house and everything close to Crawford's congregation. At that church, according to this lady, he separates men and women and has a dress code similar to what CathInfo said. Iirc, it's blue. I asked her if it sounds like a cult, and she said it's absolutely a cult. That's pretty interesting considering that's now two people that have said this about him. It seems like where there's smoke, there's fire. She says it's like her daughter is a different person now, and that families there are basically not allowed to mingle with their families back home when they join Crawford's church, at least from what I gather. So it sounds, honestly, like a weird place."
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2020, 11:24:11 PM
The situation up in MN is a sad one.  What was once a unified CMRI parish, consisting mostly of one large, tight-knit family, including the parents, 13 children, and over 40 grandchildren has been shattered since Fr. Crawford's arrival in 2017.  Half the children and their families continue on with the CMRI parish, and half follow Crawford.  Those that follow Crawford shun their family members that don't follow him, having declared that they are going to Hell when they chose to stay with CMRI and not follow Crawford, and continuing to make such declarations in the rare occasions they cross paths.  They won't show up when invited to family gatherings, and won't allow the children that go to CMRI, their nephews and nieces, visit or play with their own children.  They've told their other family members that continued with the CMRI that they can't associate with any of them in any unnecessary way until they change their beliefs to align with theirs.

The followers of Fr. Crawford also developed new strange beliefs, ranging from rejecting the existence of Limbo, to declaring the color pink as being evil and from the devil.  Much of their new focus is on modesty, scandal, and fraternal correction.  They hold that shorts and short-sleeve shirts are sinful and scandalous, even if worn by boys or men.  They have openly rebuked their sisters as being in mortal sin for causing them scandal simply because they could see their ankle, as they hold that dresses that don't cover a woman's or girl's ankle are sinfully scandalous.  They believe they are obliged under pain of sin to correct anyone they think is sinning at all times and all places, no matter the circumstances, even if it's a stranger in public.  One young adult man who follows Crawford told his brother he couldn't go skiing with him because there would be girls wearing ski pants, and he believed he would be sinning if he refrained from telling them they were sinning.  That same young man later told his brother he was mortally sinning for wearing shorts.  He has now moved to shunning his brother, who was his closest friend all his life, won't talk to him when he's near, and, like his other siblings that follow Crawford, shuns all his other siblings and family members that stuck with the CMRI.  

Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.  They claimed this is how they knew to follow Crawford and reject the CMRI as evil.  In conjunction with this, they disdain and distrust Catholic books, saying books have no value, as no books can be trusted to not have been corrupted, including all bibles or writings of the popes and councils.  They've said the only knowledge that can be trusted is that which God gives to them directly in prayer, speaking to their heart, and that they know it's from God, rather than from their own feelings or the devil, because, "if you're humble enough, you'll know."

I'm told Fr. Crawford is very charming.
Sounds like a combo of the Dimond Brothers and Francis Shuckardt. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2020, 10:37:56 AM
As if Feeneyism wasn't bad enough, seems like any time these people organize themselves they invariably form cults. Feeney himself, the Diamonds, and now Crawford has people relocating across the country so he can tell them how to dress and who to talk to. How shameful, to think grown adults with families get pulled into this stuff. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2020, 06:10:28 PM
As if Feeneyism wasn't bad enough, seems like any time these people organize themselves they invariably form cults. Feeney himself, the Diamonds, and now Crawford has people relocating across the country so he can tell them how to dress and who to talk to. How shameful, to think grown adults with families get pulled into this stuff.
That is a very uncharitable assessment of people who refuse to twist the Nicene Creed and the Gospel of John into meaningless metaphors. Bishop Webster leads no cult, while +Vezelis and +Sanborn do. The rumors about Fr. Crawford have not been confirmed here. They are all meaningless allegations.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
That is a very uncharitable assessment of people who refuse to twist the Nicene Creed and the Gospel of John into meaningless metaphors. Bishop Webster leads no cult, while +Vezelis and +Sanborn do. The rumors about Fr. Crawford have not been confirmed here. They are all meaningless allegations.
You've obviously been trained well by him. What favorite color does he allow you to have?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 22, 2020, 02:33:49 PM

Remember the story about the poor jew who was drowning and wanted to be Baptized?

He went ahead and Baptized himself before he slipped under the waves.

When he woke up and met Our Lord, he learned that his Baptism didn’t work.

After all that effort, the poor jew wasn’t recognized by Our Lord.


The jew joined his buddies in Hell.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 10:53:38 AM
That is a very uncharitable assessment of people who refuse to twist the Nicene Creed and the Gospel of John into meaningless metaphors. Bishop Webster leads no cult, while +Vezelis and +Sanborn do. The rumors about Fr. Crawford have not been confirmed here. They are all meaningless allegations.
Uh, Crawford has disowned Webster since Webster tried to consecrate pfeiffer, who is a rabid anti-feeneyite and anti-sedevacantist.  We're talking about Crawford, not webster. crawford is organizing a cult by all appearances. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 23, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
Remember the story about the poor jew who was drowning and wanted to be Baptized?

He went ahead and Baptized himself before he slipped under the waves.

When he woke up and met Our Lord, he learned that his Baptism didn’t work.

After all that effort, the poor jew wasn’t recognized by Our Lord.


The jew joined his buddies in Hell.

Interesting.  Do you have a source for this?
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 05:22:42 PM
My few encounters with Crawford and his group convinced me they are a cult of some degree or another. I used to pray Rosary with them last year for a few months, while I was still attending SSPX chapel at their novitiate in Winona.  I never felt comfortable attending any of Crawford's or Anthony's masses as I was still wrestling with the Thuc consecrations (which is resolved for me now, I accept Pivarunus' and his lineage as valid). I never could accept Crawford's ordination, and still don't for reasons others have already explained here and elsewhere.   I am still in contact with a few of their group, and occasionally get a text or calI from Fr. Anthony Marie who serves under Crawford at the Chapel of Our Lady of Good Counsel, which is now moved from outside of Chatfield, MN to near the small airport outside of Preston, MN.  I stopped praying the Rosary with them when I started to realize that since we pray during simple Exposition, and I doubt the validity of Crawford's ordination, then that's just bread masquerading as Christ on that altar and I shouldn't pray with them anymore.  I gave their ideas on BOD a listen, even had Fr. Anthony over for dinner one night to explain, but what they described was not the God that I knew and even though I was beginning to accept the SV position, and therefore understood that I had been taught a lot of errors and heresies in the Conciliarist NO, there was no way that God would reject a heart and soul that desired baptism but could not receive it under the normal Sacramental conditions.  There were other peculiarities too that struck me, not just the Feeneyism.

I once belonged to a very austere and radical (but diocesan) Capuchin reform community that has since been disbanded.  That community fell into many of the errors of the Franciscan Spirituals of the late 13th and first half of the 14th centuries.  So many of the aberrant practices and displays of austerity and asceticism, the force of a personality, the progressive nature of a fundamentalist spirituality (that every obstacle or bad outcome is due to not being austere enough, not being true to the Ideal, therefore we must double-down and go ever more radical), the peculiar and divisive ideologies used as their raison d'être, the driving of wedges in families and between parents and offspring, and the abuse and appropriation of St. Francis through a Joachimistic lens (whether knowingly or not).... my warning flags all went up like crazy, I've seen (and acted in) this movie before. It doesn't end well.  

It ends in a factionalism that ultimately scatters all the sheep. As more radical practices are adopted for the reasons stated above, eventually some members will question them, and resist. The radical party, feeling themselves to be true to the Ideal because of their practices, will then paint those that resist them as "lax" or enemies of the Ideal, and will do everything they can to shun them if they can't get them to conform. Those who were painted as not following the Ideal will either leave or be chased out. Then, the radical party will continue to get more radical, as fundamentalism of this kind is a progressive disease, and eventually the pattern will repeat itself within the remaining group, until it devours and disperses them all.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
My few encounters with Crawford and his group convinced me they are a cult of some degree or another. I used to pray Rosary with them last year for a few months, while I was still attending SSPX chapel at their novitiate in Winona.  I never felt comfortable attending any of Crawford's or Anthony's masses as I was still wrestling with the Thuc consecrations (which is resolved for me now, I accept Pivarunus' and his lineage as valid). I never could accept Crawford's ordination, and still don't for reasons others have already explained here and elsewhere.   I am still in contact with a few of their group, and occasionally get a text or calI from Fr. Anthony Marie who serves under Crawford at the Chapel of Our Lady of Good Counsel, which is now moved from outside of Chatfield, MN to near the small airport outside of Preston, MN.  I stopped praying the Rosary with them when I started to realize that since we pray during simple Exposition, and I doubt the validity of Crawford's ordination, then that's just bread masquerading as Christ on that altar and I shouldn't pray with them anymore.  I gave their ideas on BOD a listen, even had Fr. Anthony over for dinner one night to explain, but what they described was not the God that I knew and even though I was beginning to accept the SV position, and therefore understood that I had been taught a lot of errors and heresies in the Conciliarist NO, there was no way that God would reject a heart and soul that desired baptism but could not receive it under the normal Sacramental conditions.  There were other peculiarities too that struck me, not just the Feeneyism.

I once belonged to a very austere and radical (but diocesan) Capuchin reform community that has since been disbanded.  That community fell into many of the errors of the Franciscan Spirituals of the late 13th and first half of the 14th centuries.  So many of the aberrant practices and displays of austerity and asceticism, the force of a personality, the progressive nature of a fundamentalist spirituality (that every obstacle or bad outcome is due to not being austere enough, not being true to the Ideal, therefore we must double-down and go ever more radical), the peculiar and divisive ideologies used as their raison d'être, the driving of wedges in families and between parents and offspring, and the abuse and appropriation of St. Francis through a Joachimistic lens (whether knowingly or not).... my warning flags all went up like crazy, I've seen (and acted in) this movie before. It doesn't end well.  

It ends in a factionalism that ultimately scatters all the sheep. As more radical practices are adopted for the reasons stated above, eventually some members will question them, and resist. The radical party, feeling themselves to be true to the Ideal because of their practices, will then paint those that resist them as "lax" or enemies of the Ideal, and will do everything they can to shun them if they can't get them to conform. Those who were painted as not following the Ideal will either leave or be chased out. Then, the radical party will continue to get more radical, as fundamentalism of this kind is a progressive disease, and eventually the pattern will repeat itself within the remaining group, until it devours and disperses them all.
What's wrong with Crawford's ordination? 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 07:07:34 PM
Not the person from above, but Fr Crawford was ordained by Bishop Webster. Bishop Webster does not know how to use the Roman Ritual, as evidenced by his botched consecration attempt of J Pfeiffer. Webster does not know Latin. And even if he did, his own ordination comes through schimsatic and doubtful lines. Too bad. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 07:22:26 PM
My few encounters with Crawford and his group convinced me they are a cult of some degree or another. I used to pray Rosary with them last year for a few months, while I was still attending SSPX chapel at their novitiate in Winona.  I never felt comfortable attending any of Crawford's or Anthony's masses as I was still wrestling with the Thuc consecrations (which is resolved for me now, I accept Pivarunus' and his lineage as valid). I never could accept Crawford's ordination, and still don't for reasons others have already explained here and elsewhere.   I am still in contact with a few of their group, and occasionally get a text or calI from Fr. Anthony Marie who serves under Crawford at the Chapel of Our Lady of Good Counsel, which is now moved from outside of Chatfield, MN to near the small airport outside of Preston, MN.  I stopped praying the Rosary with them when I started to realize that since we pray during simple Exposition, and I doubt the validity of Crawford's ordination, then that's just bread masquerading as Christ on that altar and I shouldn't pray with them anymore.  I gave their ideas on BOD a listen, even had Fr. Anthony over for dinner one night to explain, but what they described was not the God that I knew and even though I was beginning to accept the SV position, and therefore understood that I had been taught a lot of errors and heresies in the Conciliarist NO, there was no way that God would reject a heart and soul that desired baptism but could not receive it under the normal Sacramental conditions.  There were other peculiarities too that struck me, not just the Feeneyism.

I once belonged to a very austere and radical (but diocesan) Capuchin reform community that has since been disbanded.  That community fell into many of the errors of the Franciscan Spirituals of the late 13th and first half of the 14th centuries.  So many of the aberrant practices and displays of austerity and asceticism, the force of a personality, the progressive nature of a fundamentalist spirituality (that every obstacle or bad outcome is due to not being austere enough, not being true to the Ideal, therefore we must double-down and go ever more radical), the peculiar and divisive ideologies used as their raison d'être, the driving of wedges in families and between parents and offspring, and the abuse and appropriation of St. Francis through a Joachimistic lens (whether knowingly or not).... my warning flags all went up like crazy, I've seen (and acted in) this movie before. It doesn't end well.  

It ends in a factionalism that ultimately scatters all the sheep. As more radical practices are adopted for the reasons stated above, eventually some members will question them, and resist. The radical party, feeling themselves to be true to the Ideal because of their practices, will then paint those that resist them as "lax" or enemies of the Ideal, and will do everything they can to shun them if they can't get them to conform. Those who were painted as not following the Ideal will either leave or be chased out. Then, the radical party will continue to get more radical, as fundamentalism of this kind is a progressive disease, and eventually the pattern will repeat itself within the remaining group, until it devours and disperses them all.

The reason you give for your BOD position is sentimental.  That's not a good approach to theological questions.  The main reason so-called Feeneyites come to the conclusion that BOD is not a true doctrine of the Church is that the infallible papal pronouncements on the subject rule it out.  Meanwhile, the BOD position has only the teachings of fallible theologians on its side.  You can go to the MHFM website and find Br Peter Dimond's book in pdf format for free.  It gives a good presentation of the evidence both for and against BOD.  Also, the answer to your objection is that in the case of a soul sincerely seeking God and desiring baptism, God will arrange to have them sacramentally baptized.  There are many anecdotes of just that kind of thing happening.  Miraculous springs bubbling up from the path to the gallows.  God doesn't command the impossible.  So if it is required that all the elect receive water baptism, then all the elect will receive water baptism.  Nothing can withstand God.  So, no, the soul you are concerned about, if he really exists, will not be denied baptism.

I know Fr Anthony but I know next to nothing about Dominic Crawford so I won't defend him or his "organization".  However, all the things you are listing are mostly hypotheticals not actual evidence.  It really amounts to what you fear might happen, not what is actually happening.  And it is possible that you are misreading the situation.  Did you know that St Alphonsus got kicked out of the order he founded?  Many other saints got falsely accused of wrong-doing.  As far as austerity and asceticism, you are giving the impression that you oppose them on principle.  As if austerity and asceticism are actual evils.  But austerity and asceticism are foundational Catholic practice.  All the great saints were frighteningly austere and ascetic.  St John Vianney's daily diet (when he wasn't fasting!) was a couple of boiled potatoes, often days old, with mold beginning to grow on them.  So I guess that would have sent you into flight.  You wouldn't be unique in that regard.  Plenty of people did avoid him.  Even good Catholics.

It's pretty easy to take potshots at people in an anonymous forum.  But God sees all.  We will be held accountable for our calumnies and detractions.  Cathinfo anonymity will not be a protection from the wrath of God.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 09:52:35 PM
My intent was not to give an exhaustive explanation for my support of BOD, as that is not the purpose of this thread.  I gave a passing reason.  I have looked more thoroughly into it and many other issues during that period and leading up to this one.  If one wants to discuss that issue, there are plenty of other threads on CathInfo just for that purpose.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 09:57:07 PM
I know Fr Anthony but I know next to nothing about Dominic Crawford so I won't defend him or his "organization".  However, all the things you are listing are mostly hypotheticals not actual evidence.  It really amounts to what you fear might happen, not what is actually happening.  And it is possible that you are misreading the situation.  Did you know that St Alphonsus got kicked out of the order he founded?  Many other saints got falsely accused of wrong-doing.  As far as austerity and asceticism, you are giving the impression that you oppose them on principle.  As if austerity and asceticism are actual evils.  But austerity and asceticism are foundational Catholic practice.  All the great saints were frighteningly austere and ascetic.  St John Vianney's daily diet (when he wasn't fasting!) was a couple of boiled potatoes, often days old, with mold beginning to grow on them.  So I guess that would have sent you into flight.  You wouldn't be unique in that regard.  Plenty of people did avoid him.  Even good Catholics.

It's pretty easy to take potshots at people in an anonymous forum.  But God sees all.  We will be held accountable for our calumnies and detractions.  Cathinfo anonymity will not be a protection from the wrath of God.
Well, take it or leave it.  I shared my experience and the warning bells that went off for me, put it in your back pocket and if it rings true for you later down the road, than I hope it saves you some trouble.  
I didn't give any impression regarding my position on austerity and ascetism, you chose to take your impression.  
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 10:00:06 PM
What's wrong with Crawford's ordination?
There's a pretty good discussion regarding Webster and his lineage, eventually passing through the Palmarians, which for me is a non-starter.
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bp-neal-webster/
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
There's a pretty good discussion regarding Webster and his lineage, eventually passing through the Palmarians, which for me is a non-starter.
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bp-neal-webster/
The Palmarians? Yikes!
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2021, 11:34:08 AM
"I know Fr Anthony but I know next to nothing about Dominic Crawford so I won't defend him or his "organization".  However, all the things you are listing are mostly hypotheticals not actual evidence.  It really amounts to what you fear might happen, not what is actually happening.  And it is possible that you are misreading the situation."

"It's pretty easy to take potshots at people in an anonymous forum.  But God sees all.  We will be held accountable for our calumnies and detractions.  Cathinfo anonymity will not be a protection from the wrath of God."
I've been giving it some prayer and thought the past few months, and believe that you may be correct to a certain degree.  It is very possible that I may be misreading some of the situation, and projecting, from past experience, my fears about what might happen.  The whole "congregation" as I will call them, were very inviting, kind and warm to me when each time I did visit.  I was impressed by the goodness of the children and their piety. That's what makes me uneasy about my airing of concerns about the group, because they were all, to the last person, very kind to me.  At the same time, I no more intended to "take potshots" at them than Paul intended to when he warned others about Alexander the coppersmith.  I am not comparing myself to the Apostle, nor am imputing the crimes of Alexander to this group.  I just wanted others to be careful, because despite the beautiful, I sensed there to be some great dysfunction of the kind that I have experienced in depth, and know what it looks like.  The beautiful fruits that my community had, actually masked the severe dysfunction, a kind of dysfunction that easily is confused with piety and ascetism.
The families that are involved in that congregation are good people, and I hope the best for them, and for unity and reconciliation with their other family members who they are estranged from.
 
To be honest, if I could take down my post, I would because I agree with you that what I intuit and sense is not sufficient for weighing in on it, and does in fact risk crossing over into detraction with the same effect as calumny, though my intention was never to harm the reputation so much as to warn others from falling into harm's way.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2021, 08:36:34 PM
Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.”



Hmm, interesting, I would think that praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day would protect you from such an error as falling into a cult. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Cryptinox on January 10, 2021, 10:25:56 PM
Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.”



Hmm, interesting, I would think that praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day would protect you from such an error as falling into a cult
Even though Fr. Crawford's group sounds cult-y it does not seem like a spiritually harmful one.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2021, 09:12:35 AM
Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.  They credit this to praying a 15-decade rosary every day.”



Hmm, interesting, I would think that praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day would protect you from such an error as falling into a cult.

A variety of people and groups promote and pray the 15-decade rosary daily, yet hold significantly contrary beliefs to each other; some so significantly different that the other groups would find them condemnable.  It seems this group, in particular, would find many things condemnable in other people and groups that promote and pray a daily 15-decade rosary; such as those who believe in baptism of desire, those who attend the Novus Ordo, those who have different beliefs about modesty, those who aren’t sedevacantist, etc.  Their former bishop, Neal Webster, is known to be a fervent advocate of praying the daily 15-decade rosary, yet this group has apparently found his actions condemnable enough to cut ties with him.  They might have thought “you would think that praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day would protect Bp. Webster from such an error as attempting to consecrate a priest who rabidly denies EENS, fervidly opposes sedevacantism, and is in union with a heretical pope.”

What do we make of all this?  Praying the 15-decade rosary daily is a great devotion, but we ought to be very careful to avoid temptations to superstition, presumption, and tempting God, and realize that such a great devotion does not, alone, guarantee we will be free from error.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2021, 09:40:01 AM
A variety of people and groups promote and pray the 15-decade rosary daily, yet hold significantly contrary beliefs to each other; some so significantly different that the other groups would find them condemnable.  It seems this group, in particular, would find many things condemnable in other people and groups that promote and pray a daily 15-decade rosary; such as those who believe in baptism of desire, those who attend the Novus Ordo, those who have different beliefs about modesty, those who aren’t sedevacantist, etc.  Their former bishop, Neal Webster, is known to be a fervent advocate of praying the daily 15-decade rosary, yet this group has apparently found his actions condemnable enough to cut ties with him.  They might have thought “you would think that praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day would protect Bp. Webster from such an error as attempting to consecrate a priest who rabidly denies EENS, fervidly opposes sedevacantism, and is in union with a heretical pope.”

What do we make of all this?  Praying the 15-decade rosary daily is a great devotion, but we ought to be very careful to avoid temptations to superstition, presumption, and tempting God, and realize that such a great devotion does not, alone, guarantee we will be free from error.
Heretics always give a show of piety. Note: I am not saying any of the people we are talking about are heretics. I am only saying that demonstrations of piety are not just compatible with having erroneous beliefs, they are guaranteed to be present in groups that have erroneous beliefs. That is, after all, how these groups get formed and grow in the first place. Think of the protestants. They were able to attract people, in part, because of their devotional acts. A common Protestant refrain during (and after) the reformation was that Catholics were morally lax.  'Serious' Christians joined a Protestant group because a Protestant group promoted purity of doctrine, anti-corruption, and a view of mankind that reinforced its universal dependence on God for redemption.
No one is ever going to join into a religious group that isn't, well, religious. Trads can be so naive. This cuts both ways: they see people attending the Novus Ordo wearing a mantilla and think maybe the N.O. is not all that bad. Or, they see some backwater and dubious 'bishop' praying a fifteen decade rosary and figure he must have everything figured out.  It's idiocy, among other things.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 04:44:42 PM
Fr. Crawford recently forbade his followers from attending the wedding of their son and brother, simply because it was with CMRI.  Crawford warned his followers that any of them that went to the CMRI wedding would need to make a public abjuration in his chapel before they could receive communion again.

This is for those thinking of having him as their priest, that you might know what will be required of you.  If you don't trust anonymous posts, at least you'll know what kind of questions you may want to ask him before getting in too deep.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Ladislaus on January 13, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
Many of these family members following Fr. Crawford claim to receive answers to all their questions and knowledge on all their beliefs, and any decisions, directly from God while praying.  They say the knowledge is infused in them during prayer by God speaking to their heart, and they can't explain it in words.
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Claims of  "knowledge ... infused directly from God" are probably prima facie evidence of cult.  Cult leaders always like to claim divine guidance, and it's what inspires people to slavishly follow their "authority".
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 05:37:12 PM
Claims of  "knowledge ... infused directly from God" are probably prima facie evidence of cult.  Cult leaders always like to claim divine guidance, and it's what inspires people to slavishly follow their "authority".
What of the Fatima cult? In one way of thinking, with La Salette, Lourdes, Fatima, Garabandal, Our Lady of Good Success, and Medjugorge, one can say that for the last two hundred years, traditional Catholicism has been a Marian cult led by children who claim secrets from the Blessed Mother. Is that a cult? And if those apparitions are true, why would it be odd for the remnant Catholic faithful to receive messages from God? If traditional Catholicism is true and furthermore, if Feeneyite dogmatic sedevacantism is true, then only a few thousand souls are non-heretical members of the Catholic Church. So wouldn't God go to the few faithful priests and bishops who are members of the remnant and guide them? Hopefully Sts. Peter and Paul will soon come down from heaven and anoint one of these faithful Thuc Bishops the true pope and put and end to the crisis.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 06:52:19 PM
So here we have, it seems, a new theology: Praying fifteen mysteries of the rosary daily = infallibility. Congrats Crawford for further diving the traditional movement.
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 07:35:23 PM
Even though Fr. Crawford's group sounds cult-y it does not seem like a spiritually harmful one.
Cults are definitionally spiritually harmful. 
Title: Re: Fr. Dominic Crawford
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2021, 08:48:49 PM
Regarding Fr. Dominic Crawford. Yes he did enter CMRI's Mater Dei seminary. He was ordained a deacon by Bp. Mark Pivarunas, CMRI on May 11, 2016. Then Rev. Mr. Crawford eventually left. Then on June 10, 2017 he was ordained a priest by Bp. Neal Webster. Fr. Crawford is still in MN to my knowledge.