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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2018, 02:36:11 PM »
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  • This is a pathetic and cowardly attack; this thread needs to be deleted.


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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #31 on: February 12, 2018, 02:40:47 PM »
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  • Wow, I cant believe people are so heartless. Yes, he doesn't sound like the most admirable man on earth. His wife's food doesn't look like 3 star Michelin, who cares. What ever happened to just ignoring what other people are doing, and trying to save our own souls. No wonder people can't stand trads.
    Maybe I'm just extra sensitive being in my first trimester but I'm dumbfounded at the lack of charity. Let the guy try his dumb ventures and fail, he's not shaking you down for money, click the 'X' on the top of his webpage and it goes away.
    I really hope it was a bunch of women hen-pecking him because it is a huge sign of low testosterone when men get all offended about what other people are doing. News flash: men who are concerned with their faith and family first, don't care about other's business ventures. In fact, genuinely GOOD men might even offer a rosary for him and his family.

    I agree. 

    So the guy is trying to make a bit of money with a blog. He's not the only trad to do that. He may even be a bit nutty - but then, what trad isn't? I don't see what the big deal is. So he lives in a run-down house with a broken dishwasher. From that photo, that pink house is way nicer than, say, the house that St. Bernadette and her family lived in when the BVM appeared to Bernadette. They truly lived in a hovel. 

    Yes, it would be better to offer a Rosary for him and his family.

    Maybe the person who started the thread has a personal issue with the man. 



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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #32 on: February 12, 2018, 02:42:25 PM »
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  • My post above. Forgot to check the box, as usual. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #33 on: February 12, 2018, 04:45:11 PM »
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  • Well, I live in rural Kansas as well, but in a part that is more poor than their area. You should see my broken down house. Nothing works right and I don't even have a dishwasher (if I did, it would probably be broke down  :laugh1:).

    Some of you people are just downright mean. Why are you being anonymous about it? Because you know it's wrong? Because you fear reproach from man? I would fear reproach from God much more, and he and your guardian angels are watching the kind of mess that you are being.  :facepalm:  

    I prayed when I saw the posts about his wife's tuna cakes that she wouldn't see this thread, knowing that if I saw others making fun of me regarding what is most important to me (my homemaking duties) like that I would feel absolutely awful and shed tears over it. Apparently she did see it if it has been taken down. I bet her husband and her children really liked the meal she made. I imagine it made their bellies full and their spirits nurtured. For the record, I have a hard time from keeping tuna cakes from falling apart as well. Everyone in my family loves them, though! 

    I'm not sure why the moderators would allow this kind of trash on a Catholic Forum. I can see not wanting to over moderate, but this is just damaging. 
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #34 on: February 12, 2018, 04:46:48 PM »
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  • Wise words, lapetitefleur. Don't let it spoil your CathInfo experience. Come and pay a visit to the women only section for a reprieve from the nastiness.

    Not saying that women can't be nasty, but this anonymous allowed is greatly abused by cowardly nasty types, whether male or female.
    I agree you, Nadir! The women only forum is my favorite part of CathInfo. I've never seen a nasty or uncharitable word spoken there. 


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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #35 on: February 12, 2018, 04:54:06 PM »
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  • ^^^ That was me.^^^
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 07:09:15 PM »
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  • Sardá y Salvany, Felix (1899). "What is Liberalism?" St. Louis: B. Herder

    The Liberals tell us that our violent methods of warfare against them are not in conformity with the Pope's counsels to moderation and charity. Has he not exhorted Catholic writers to a love of peace and union; to avoid harsh, aggressive and personal polemics? How then can we Ultramontanes reconcile the Holy Father's wishes with our fierce methods? Let us consider the force of the Liberals' objection. To whom does the Holy Father address these repeated admonitions? Always to the Catholic press, to Catholic journalists, to those who are supposed to be worthy of the name. These counsels to moderation and charity, therefore, are always addressed to Catholics, discussing with other Catholics free questions, i.e., not involving established principles of faith and morality, and do not in any sense apply to Catholics waging a mortal combat with the declared enemies of the faith.

    There is no doubt that the Pope here makes no allusion to the incessant battles between Catholics and Liberals, for the simple reason that Catholicity is truth and Liberalism heresy, between which there can be no peace, but wear to the death. It is certain by consequence, therefore, that the Pope intends his counsels to apply to our family quarrels, unhappily much too frequent; and that by no means does he seek to forbid us from waging an unrelenting stiff with the eternal enemies of the Church, whose hands, filled with deadly weapons, are ever lifted against the faith and its defenders.

    Therefore there can be no contradiction between the doctrine we expound and that of the Briefs and Allocutions of the Holy Father on the subject, provided that logically both apply to the same matter under the same respect, which holds perfectly in this instance. For how can we interpret the words of the Holy Father in any other way? It is a rule of sound exegesis that any passage in Holy Scripture should always be interpreted according to the letter, unless such meaning be in opposition to the context; we can only have recourse to a free or figurative interpretation, when this opposition is obvious. This rule applies also to the interpretation of pontifical docuмents. How can we suppose the Pope in contradiction with all Catholic tradition from Jesus Christ to our own times? Is it for a moment admissible that the style and method of most of the celebrated Catholic polemists and apologists from St. Paul to St Francis de Sales should be condemned by a stroke of the pen? Clearly not; for if we were to understand the Pope's counsels to moderation and calm, in the sense in which the Liberal conclusion would construe them, we should have to answer evidently yes. Consequently we must conclude that the Holy Father's words are not addressed to Catholics battling with the enemies of Catholicity, but only to Catholics controverting on free questions amongst themselves.

    Common sense itself shows this. Imagine a general in the midst of a raging battle issuing an order to his soldiers not to injure the enemy too severely! "Be careful! Don't hurt the enemy! Attention there! Don't aim at the heart!" What more be said! Pius IX has given us an an explanation of the proper meaning of his words. On a memorable occasion he calls the sectaries of the Commune demons, and worse than demons the sectaries of Liberalism. Who then need fear to thunderbolt such an enemy with epithets too harsh and severe? 

    In vain do the Liberals cite the words of Leo XIII in the Encyclical cuм Multa, exhorting Catholics to avoid violence in the discussion of the sacred rights of the Church, and to rely rather upon the weight of reason to gain victory; for the words have reference to polemics between Catholics discussing the best means to preserve their common cause, and by no means apply as a rule to govern polemics with the sectaries of Liberalism. The intrinsic evidence of the encyclical proves this beyond cavil. The Pope concludes by exhorting all associations and individual Catholics to a still closer and more intimate union, and, after pointing out the inestimable advantages of such a union, he instances, as the means of preserving it, that moderation of language and charity of which we are speaking. The argument is plain: the Pope recommends moderation and charity to Catholic writers, as a means of preserving peace and mutual union. Clearly this peace and union is between Catholics and not between Catholics and their enemies. Therefore the moderation and charity recommended by the Pope to Catholic writers applies only to Catholic polemics between Catholics on free questions. Would it not be absurd to imagine that there could be any union between truth and error, therefore between the advocates of truth on the one side and error on the other? Irreconcilable opposites never unite. One or the other must disappear. 

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #37 on: February 12, 2018, 07:19:48 PM »
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  • (cont.)
     
    The authors and propagators of heretical doctrines are soldiers with poisoned weapons in their hands. Their arms are the book, (116) the journal, the lecture, their personal influence. Is it sufficient to dodge their blows? Not at all; the first thing necessary is to demolish the combatant himself. When he is hors de combat, he can do no more mischief.

    It is therefore perfectly proper not only to discredit any book, journal or discourse of the enemy, but it is also proper, in certain cases, to even discredit his person; for in warfare, beyond question, the principal element is the person engaged, as the gunner is the principal factor in an artillery fight and not the cannon, the powder and the bomb. It is thus lawful, in certain cases, to expose the infamy of a Liberal opponent, to bring his habits into contempt, and drag his name in the mire.

    Sardá y Salvany, Felix (1899). What is Liberalism? St. Louis: B. Herder, pp. iii–v.



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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #38 on: February 12, 2018, 07:41:45 PM »
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  • I intended to cite a smaller passage from El liberalismo es pecado, and hit "post" prematurely. Sorry for the length. 

    Is there a way to edit a post after it is visible on the forum?

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #39 on: February 13, 2018, 01:27:51 AM »
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  • It is thus lawful, in certain cases, to expose the infamy of a Liberal opponent, to bring his habits into contempt, and drag his name in the mire.

    Sardá y Salvany, Felix (1899). What is Liberalism? St. Louis: B. Herder, pp. iii–v.
    The problem is, you've not unearthed much that's worthy of criticism.
    That his dishwasher is broken, his wife's t-shirt could use a few more inches on the sleeve, and he wants to start a catering business are not exactly "habits" which are going to turn people against his heretical points of view.
    Consider your audience. His website speaks for itself.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #40 on: February 13, 2018, 07:49:36 AM »
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  • http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=301

    9. Maidens and women dressed immodestly are to be debarred from Holy Communion and from acting as sponsors at the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation; further, if the offense be extreme, they may even be forbidden to enter the church.
    Her shirt sleeve is a little too short, so make fun of her cooking and mock her home? You are not going to find a docuмent to support that kind of un-Christian behavior. 
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #41 on: February 13, 2018, 09:06:27 AM »
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  • And people also need to stop with this ridiculous binary mentality regarding modesty of dress.  You howl as if a slightly-too-short sleeve is the same thing as walking into a church in a bikini.  As with most moral issues, there are degrees of gravity ... and this should barely register on any normal Catholic's moral compass.  Why, does seeing an extra inch of skin on the arm pose a mortal danger to your soul?  If so, you've got bigger problems and need to address those first before attacking this lady.  Take the enormous beam out of our own eye before going after attacking her for this tiny splinter.  Does that language ring a bell for you?

    PS -- the tuna cakes look really good to me.

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #42 on: February 13, 2018, 09:07:54 AM »
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  • Her shirt sleeve is a little too short, so make fun of her cooking and mock her home? You are not going to find a docuмent to support that kind of un-Christian behavior.

    I live in a very run down tiny little home myself ... but it's all I can do given that we welcomed all the children God gave us and have been stretched financially.  And my children have taken a toll on the place as well.

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #43 on: February 13, 2018, 09:09:02 AM »
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  • This clown clearly has a personal grudge against this family.

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    Re: Former St. Mary's SSPX Family Asks for Your $ to Leave Daily Duty
    « Reply #44 on: February 13, 2018, 09:38:50 AM »
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  • You write: "... so make fun of her cooking and mock her home?"

    Most certainly.

    Let us pray for their children, in such a diseased environment.



    I'm afraid that you're more in need of prayers than they are.