This is being circulated by American Trad, Mr Joseph Saraceno
parousa2009@yahoo.com

What do you make of it?



Fidelity Among Traditionalists
 
   It has been my experience that Traditional Catholics enjoy a harmonious relationship once they become aware of the following realities:

1. We are living in the Great Apostasy spoken of by St.Paul the Apostle.

 2.The Vatican II Anti Christs have taken over the chair of St. Peter and will possess it until Christ returns.

 3.There will never be another  True Pope.

 4. Christ will be back in the Generation of the Great Apostasy. Matt.24:34.

 5. The general judgment starts on Pentecost Sunday. (Middle East time)  (1)

           THE FOUR MAIN ENEMIES OF THE CHURCH

 1. The Heresies stemming from the V-2 council.

 2. Mystical cultism, elevating private revelations and their messages above the Apostles and the Divine doctrinal teachings of the Church.

 3. Lack of Biblical knowledge and study.

 4. Mortal Sin.

     EVERY DISORDER IN THE WORLD IS THE RESULT OF MORTAL SIN:


Remember, that Our Lord cannot return until this secular, liberal, democracy and pluralistic, inter faith gospel spreads through out the world. This should take at least two to five years.

 God bless and see you on judgment day.  In Christ, Joseph

(1)  Based on my writing," The Status of the Catholic Church as a Result of the Second Council." 6-13-98.    Updated 11-14-12 St. Josaphat, BpM

There will never be another true Pope?

Talk about one being an "armchair theologian"!

And how in the world can he possible even pretend to know number 5?

It would seem so.

What the OP didn't state is that Joseph Saraceno predicted (past tense) that the General Judgement would take place on Pentecost Sunday, 2009.

He makes the same prediction every year: it's almost like a sick sort of tradition now.

He has been expelled from various Mass centres for his heretical propaganda.

He was one of the founders of the Four Marks Newsletter, and ads for his literature were featured on there ("Our Lady of the Apocalypse"). This is one reason that periodical was initially proscribed at some Mass centres (this is not alluding to the disgusting abuses of Bp. Dolan in prejudice to the wronged Kathleen Plumb, which may have happened after the Four Marks disassociated itself from Saraceno, which I hope really happened!).

Saraceno is symptomatic of an extreme case of the one-track-mind sort of sede...

Unfortunately some of his errors are shared by others:

1. Some sedevacantists Priests and Bishops have publicly stated in categorical and absolute terms that the present age is the great apostasy prophesied by St. Paul in his Second Epistle to the Thessalonians.

2. These same clerics tend to hold privately that there shan't be another successor of St. Peter, since the ultimate conclusion of holding the opinion stated in no. 1 above is that the world is at its imminent end, thus conveniently explaining away all the many and profound flaws and problems of "sedevacantism."

This is not formally heretical, but it is an occasion of heresy, or it smacks of heresy, and may be said to lead to dangerous delusions and to offend pious ears of those Catholics who in good faith follow the post-Conciliar hierarchs (spare me your anathemas, "dogmatic" sedes!).

No one amongst these sede clerics has the requisite training, much less the authority, to take the opinion expressed in no. 1 above as a categorical, public statement. They do not have the missio nor jurisdictio to preach anyways, much less make statements that indulge the sick chiliasm of present-day mad-trads such as Sareceno.

It is Bp. Pivarunas, who constantly is writing and saying that this is the great Apostasy, whom Saraceno cites as an authority. I honestly do not think that Pivarunas understands the seriousness of his statements regarding this matter. Some of his Priests have expressed to individuals their private doubts as to the question of the "next Pope," which is an error proximate to heresy insofar as it negates the perpetuity of the office of the Roman Pontiff as defined by the Vatican Coucil in Pastor aeternus.

So... yeah... brain damage...

Also, the same deluded and quasi-heretical chiliasm in these sedes does often coincide with Fox News neo-con political views, so... yeah...

People such as these are destroying the Church.

You have become your own enemies.

Don't be silly.  Can sedevacantists change the words "pro multis" to "for all"?  

Can sedevacantists enthrone indifferentism as in Nostra Aetate?  

Did sedevacantists organise Assisi?

Can sedevacantists have the communion rails removed everywhere and order communion in the hand?

Can sedevacantists have the offertory prayers removed from the novus ordo worship service?

Can sedevacantists advertise "taze prayer" and have it occur at dioceses everywhere?

Did sedevacantists engage in sɛҳuąƖ abuse with minor boys?  Or was that the "established" novus ordo?

Did the sedevacantists spend 25 years of Sunday sermons and NEVER ONCE mention Our Lady like the standard novus ordo presider has done his entire "career"?  

How could the SEDES be destroying the church?  

What the OP didn't state is that Joseph Saraceno predicted (past tense) that the General Judgement would take place on Pentecost Sunday, 2009.

Obviously, he was wrong.

He also used to be quite vocal in American 2-party politics, as if there is anything that can be done at this point to turn things around.

So on the one hand, he's downright apocalyptic about the Church ("no more pope until Christ's return") but he isn't giving up on turning America around by voting Republican.

Talk about brain damage!

I used to be on this clown's e-mail list -- I can't say I miss his insane ramblings. He seems to have taken me off his "list", probably after I took him to task on the American politics thing.

I did ask what people thought of him, and no, I didn't know he predicted that the General Judgement would take place on Pentecost Sunday, 2009. Yes, I do get his mail but much of it concerns American/ Italian-American affairs which I guess would be of interest mainly to his American recipients.

So what do almost all respondents think of him? That he is brain damaged! Another 'prophet' bites the dust!

at my former chapel, the sedes don't like anyone and has  everyone divided and feuding.   I don't like the drama.  Had enough drama with novus ordo.I feel bad for the priest who is not sedevacantist.

For time being, going to sspx. Until  sspx-SO.