Quote from: Änσnymσus on Sat May 08 2021 18:06:25 GMT+0530 (India Standard Time)
It's most strictly forbidden to believe, preach, or teach Baptism of Desire, or Baptism of Blood.
It is most strictly forbidden to deny Baptism of Desire, since the Council of Trent taught it. Thanks for the reference showing Dimondism is condemned by the Council. Trent taught BOD. No one is permitted to teach contrary to Trent. Therefore, no one is permitted to deny Baptism of Desire. If you were right, why did the Church teach Baptism of Desire in Her own Canon Law? Obviously, you are not right.
Note that the Council of Trent said there is no justification without Baptism "aut ejus voto" - that's a reference to the Baptism of Desire right there. Trent taught that there are Three Sacraments of which the Effects can be received in Desire: Baptism, Penance and the Eucharist, through Baptism of Desire, Perfect Contrition and Spiritual Communion respectively, using the term "voto" in each case.
Trent also implied and taught BOD in two other places, one in that Canon where it says no one can be justified without the sacraments, "aut eurom voto" (or the desire of them) implying that the Desire of Two Sacraments avails the Grace of Justification. These two Sacraments, as is clear from the whole Council, can only be Baptism and Penance. Then it says Penance is necessary for Salvation as Baptism itself is necessary. But Penance is necessary in re or in voto, since the Desire for Penance justifies as the Council plainly taught. Hence, since the Council said Baptism is necessary for salvation in the same way, it follows that the same is true for Baptism as well.
Now, here is Trent's Catechism, which repeats the doctrine, as plain as day. Desire for Baptism, joined to contrition or repentance over past sins avails to Grace and Justice, i.e. to the Grace of Justification, so that the person who thus dies justified may be saved:
"On adults, however, the Church has not been accustomed to confer the Sacrament of Baptism at once, but has ordained that it be deferred for a certain time. The delay is not attended with the same danger as in the case of infants, which we have already mentioned; should any unforeseen accident make it impossible for adults to be washed in the salutary waters, their intention and determination to receive Baptism and their repentance for past sins, will avail them to grace and righteousness."From:
http://www.mycatholicsource.com/mcs/pc/sacraments/catechism_of_the_council_of_trent_baptism.htmLadislaus, I go with St. Robert. In the patristic age, it was not yet settled, although it is implied by St. Cyprian, St. Ambrose, St. Augustine, Bp. Eusebius and the Council of Orange. It is fairly clear in Acts 10 that Cornelius was filled with the Holy Spirit before Baptism. Thus St. Peter and St. Luke in that passage, and St. Augustine, St. Thomas and Fr. Haydock commenting on it. In the Middle Ages, it was settled in response to a "dubia" by Pope Innocent III, and the Council of Trent dogmatized it. All post-Trent Catechisms are unanimous in teaching BOD, and not a single one condemns it. Hence, it is impossible imo for BOD to be false or objectively heretical.
The only disputed issue pre-Vatican II was Salvation by Explicit Faith vs Implicit Faith in Christ. That can of course still be disputed now.
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