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Änσnymσus

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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2021, 08:35:42 AM »
See the quote from the Decree on Justification on the previous page.
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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2021, 09:41:43 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 07, 2021, 08:35:42 AM
See the quote from the Decree on Justification on the previous page.

That doesn't address the issue at all.  You need to connect the dots here for those of us who just aren't seeing it.  All that PROEM says is that it's forbidden to contradict the Treatise on Justification.  So it remains to be demonstrated that the Treatise on Justification precludes the possibility of BoD.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2021, 12:00:10 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 07, 2021, 08:15:12 AM
You are misquoting Trent.

Trent actually says that justification cannot happen *with* the desire thereof:

"And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written..."
Unfortunately, the quote says the exact opposite of what you are claiming.  A solid grasp of basic grammar and syntax should make this clear enough.  I am well aware this message will not be received.  No biggie.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2021, 01:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 07, 2021, 09:41:43 AM
All that PROEM says is that it's forbidden to contradict the Treatise on Justification.
Not true, read again!
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most strictly forbidding that any henceforth presume to believe, preach, or teach, otherwise than as by this present decree is defined and declared.
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 06, 2021, 07:17:45 PM
Trent did not teach Baptism of Desire.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2021, 01:10:55 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 07, 2021, 01:02:40 PM
Not true, read again!

This does not mean that all Catholic teaching is contained in Trent.  What it means is that nothing taught there can be contradicted by anyone.
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