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Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2021, 10:14:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:06:50 AM
    It's just about pure ignorance and being misled. But for someone like Ladislaus, who actually knows how theology works, to fall for it, is inexcusable.
    Just disregard Ladislaus  and and those mean SSPX Feeneyites and go to the Novus Ordo, where everyone believes that all nice people in all religions are saved.
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    « Reply #16 on: May 03, 2021, 10:17:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on May 02, 2021, 10:44:57 PM
    This is very odd. Feeneyites are banned from most sedevacantist chapels that I know of. What is the SSPX policy on Feeneyites attending and receiving the sacraments?
    The reason the sedes ban Feeneyites is because they are exactly the same as the Novus Ordo in banning real Catholics from membership. EENS is enemy number one to the Jєωιѕн nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr of which the sedes are a small but important part, so of course they must reject it. Remember Father Cekada said it was easier for a Christ-hating Jew to get to heaven than a Feeneyite. I would bet that Cekada is with a lot of Christ hating Jews right now.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #17 on: May 03, 2021, 10:19:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:08:29 AM
    Oh yeah as if modernism is just about denying EENS.

    Modernism is a real phenomenon, but it was not Modernism that was taught at Vatican II.

    Name any error of Vatican II, and all the ones typically cited by Traditional Catholics are directly related to EENS.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #18 on: May 03, 2021, 10:19:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:19:35 AM
    Modernism is a real phenomenon, but it was not Modernism that was taught at Vatican II.

    Name any error of Vatican II, and all the ones typically cited by Traditional Catholics are directly related to EENS.

    This was my post.  Name one Modernist principle that was actually taught at Vatican II.  Did Vatican II teach that the meaning of doctrine changes over time?  Did Vatican II teach evolution?  Did Vatican II undermine the historicity of Sacred Scripture?
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #19 on: May 03, 2021, 10:24:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:14:32 AM
    ...believes that all nice people in all religions are saved.
    So that's what the Saints that taught bod/bod said?
    Not even the 20th century theology manuals ever teach such a thing, or the Baltimore Catechism etc.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #20 on: May 03, 2021, 10:27:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 03, 2021, 10:19:54 AM
    This was my post.  Name one Modernist principle that was actually taught at Vatican II.  Did Vatican II teach that the meaning of doctrine changes over time?  Did Vatican II teach evolution?  Did Vatican II undermine the historicity of Sacred Scripture?
    Because modernism means doctrine changes with the times, they used that excuse to change everything, so of course I see modernism as the main driver of V2.
    Then again it was all probably just a communist plot disguised as "Modernism" to sell it easier.
    Either way, I don't see EENS as the one and only cause. That's just ridiculous.
    That's like attributing Communism to a denial of EENS.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #21 on: May 03, 2021, 10:30:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:17:57 AM
    Remember Father Cekada said it was easier for a Christ-hating Jew to get to heaven than a Feeneyite. I would bet that Cekada is with a lot of Christ hating Jews right now.
    You should not say that about Fr. Cekada, he and I had plenty of blowout arguments  about a BOD over the years and he was an avowed sede and all, yet in His limitless mercy, God saw fit that Fr. Cekada receive the sacrament of Extreme Unction before he died. I pray for his soul daily as should we all.

    The only thing we CAN be sure of, is that he now knows with absolute certainty that God can and will - and wants to, provide the sacrament of baptism for all who sincerely desire it.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #22 on: May 03, 2021, 10:32:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:27:51 AM
    That's like attributing ƈσmmυɳιsm to a denial of EENS.
    The heart of Communism is belief in evolution. 
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #23 on: May 03, 2021, 10:34:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on May 03, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
    You should not say that about Fr. Cekada, he and I had plenty of blowout arguments  about a BOD over the years and he was an avowed sede and all, yet in His limitless mercy, God saw fit that Fr. Cekada receive the sacrament of Extreme Unction before he died. 
    But did he repent of his EENS-denying and sedeism heresies? The sacrament would be useless without that.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #24 on: May 03, 2021, 10:36:30 AM »
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    • I heard that the CMRI denies extreme unction to dying Feeneyites unless they recant of their Catholicism on their deathbeds.
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    « Reply #25 on: May 03, 2021, 10:41:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on May 03, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
    You should not say that about Fr. Cekada, he and I had plenty of blowout arguments  about a BOD over the years and he was an avowed sede and all, yet in His limitless mercy, God saw fit that Fr. Cekada receive the sacrament of Extreme Unction before he died. I pray for his soul daily as should we all.

    The only thing we CAN be sure of, is that he now knows with absolute certainty that God can and will - and wants to, provide the sacrament of baptism for all who sincerely desire it.
    Why shouldn't he say it? It's a perfectly logical thing to say when you believe bod/bob are "heresies."
    I believed the same thing when I was a Feeneyite.
    Just like the Dimondites, who tap dance and declare such and such that wasn't a Dimondite has gone to Hell every time they die.
    It's the logical thing to do for them.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #26 on: May 03, 2021, 10:44:27 AM »
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    • Remember in the anonymous forum there are trolls.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #27 on: May 03, 2021, 10:45:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:41:26 AM
    It's the logical thing to do for them.
    As the Cure of Ars treated Voltaire, so do the Feeneyites treat Cekada.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #28 on: May 03, 2021, 10:52:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 03, 2021, 10:41:26 AM
    Why shouldn't he say it? It's a perfectly logical thing to say when you believe bod/bob are "heresies."
    I believed the same thing when I was a Feeneyite.
    Just like the Dimondites, who tap dance and declare such and such that wasn't a Dimondite has gone to Hell every time they die.
    It's the logical thing to do for them.
    He shouldn't say it because, having received the sacrament of extreme unction, we Catholics presume that he died as one of the faithful departed. In case you do not know what a sacrament is, "a sacrament is an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace".

    If you have faith in the power of the sacrament, then you know he died a member of the faithful departed. If you have no faith in the power of the sacrament, then continue being logical I guess.
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    Re: Feeneyites Are Everywhere!
    « Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 11:05:14 AM »
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    • Can’t we just agree that we need to pray for the conversion of all Feeneyites and sedes, and leave it at that?
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