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Maybe it is not Russia whom she cannot convert, but rather, perhaps it is YOU whom she cannot convert.  Or, that is, perhaps she will bother to convert Russia, but you, on the other hand, well, why should she waste her time?  


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You know nothing about me and you say I need conversion. That sounds like a rash judgement to me.

Quote from: Hobbledehoy

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I have a friend who won't say the Fatima prayer during the rosary.  He believes it invalidates the rosary based on the anathema attached to anyone who changes the rosary.  If that isn't odd enough, he also has the priest at his church not using the prayer during public rosary.  Is there any validity to his reason?

As someone has already written: the Rosary is not a Sacrament, so issues of validity do not apply.

The Dominican Rosary, the one most diffused throughout Christendom, consists in praying once the Lord's Prayer and ten times the Angelical Salutation for each of the fifteen Mysteries whilst meditating upon these same Mysteries, which are customarily divided into three: Joyous, Dolorous and Glorious Mysteries. This is the definition given in the Roman Breviary in the Second Nocturn lessons for the Office of the Solemnity of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

In order to gain the indulgences in the Raccolta, this is the absolute requirement, except that you may divide the decades of the Holy Rosary throughout the day as long as you recite five decades within that same day.

The addition of the Minor Doxology, the antiphon Salve Regina, &c., were added later, under the influence of the Dominican structure of the Divine Office. From the beginning, the Holy Rosary was considered to be the Psalter of Jesus and Mary, so that the 150 Angelic Salutations correspond to the 150 Psalms in the Psalter of King David which form the nucleus of the Divine Office recited by canonical obligation by clergymen, professed Religious, Canons, &c. Later, the Apostolic Symbol and the preliminary Pater and three-fold Ave were added, and the Fatima Prayer was added in the 20th century. Adding these and other prayers do not take away from the Rosary; they are supposed to enhance one's attention and affection whilst continuing or concluding the Rosary.

Again, the essence of the recitation of the Holy Rosary is the praying of the Lord's Prayer and the Angelic Salutation together with meditation on the Rosary Mysteries.

I have posted some material that may be helpful: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Daily-Rosary

I for one also have problem with the so called , "Fatima Prayer"...

First of all , If it were valid , (which I feel Not), Our lord would not have said , "Lead all souls to Heaven"..
  Our Lord did say, not all soul would be saved.  In fact , very few.

  To say All Souls , you would have to include all the protestants , muslims, Jєωs and atheists. We know they are excluded.
 
The other thing is that Our Lady would not have made something like Fatima, so confusing and Changing.  Also what was the message, which had not already been given at La Salette

.  "The so called third secret, the conversion of Russia , Portgutal will not loose the Faith, the two Lucy s" , and on and it goes.  Nothing makes sense.

Private revelation, not required to save one s Soul.
 
Pray the Dominican Rosary that Our lady gave to St. Dominic, we know that to be valid, and bears fruit, when meditating on the five or 15 mysteries.

Forget about the so called , Fatima Prayer.

My thoughts...