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Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
« on: August 08, 2024, 06:04:19 PM »
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  • Saw this on FB, a post about a woman wanting to use NFP but her husband ends up becoming grumpy and irritable. They're in their mid-40s and the reason to use NFP is because of a history of having dangerous pregnancies. The comments are from women who say that their husbands act like this as well when they use NFP. Some other comments even suggest to get the husband to fast, pray novena, or lower his testosterone! Any suggestion to give up NFP is shut down immediately with hostility. 

    No one talk about long-term effects of NFP on a marriage, especially how it could affect the husband (since they're usually the ones with a higher sex drive). And NFP forces the woman to be intimate during her low-libido days. Also, these modernist Catholics get offended when marital debt is mentioned. 

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #1 on: August 09, 2024, 02:20:47 AM »
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  • Catholics don't have problems with that because they know NFP is a sin.


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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #2 on: August 09, 2024, 07:28:38 AM »
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  • Angry men because of frustration due to being with a cold wife.  Interesting to think what unseen affects are produced in the children. Disrespect possibly?  Alcoholism?  

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #3 on: August 09, 2024, 07:47:55 AM »
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  • I think this is what no one talks about. It's not really "natural" to just be intimate on certain days. It's like you're a robot or something. Of course men would be irritable.

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #4 on: August 09, 2024, 08:04:40 AM »
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  • NFP is just a control mechanism for closet feminists.


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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #5 on: August 09, 2024, 08:08:11 AM »
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  • You take what God gives you. 

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2024, 09:03:44 AM »
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  • NFP is just a control mechanism for closet feminists.
    This^.     

    And then they gaslight and say their husband doesn't care about their concerns or something? Of course he cares...

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #7 on: August 09, 2024, 09:09:46 AM »
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  • This story is sad on so many levels.

    1)A wife should never shame her husband.

    2)If there is a real health threat then the husband needs to decide what is best for the family.  He is the one who will have a harder time going without.  He is the one who will lose his wife and child.  If she does her duty and dies a good catholic, then her reward would be great and much more important than the short life we live here on earth.

    3)NFP causes a distrust in God's plan.

    4)Priests can give council, but it is still the husbands final say.

    Just some thoughts.


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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2024, 09:22:41 AM »
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  • Saw this on FB, a post about a woman wanting to use NFP but her husband ends up becoming grumpy and irritable. They're in their mid-40s and the reason to use NFP is because of a history of having dangerous pregnancies. The comments are from women who say that their husbands act like this as well when they use NFP. Some other comments even suggest to get the husband to fast, pray novena, or lower his testosterone! Any suggestion to give up NFP is shut down immediately with hostility.

    No one talk about long-term effects of NFP on a marriage, especially how it could affect the husband (since they're usually the ones with a higher sex drive). And NFP forces the woman to be intimate during her low-libido days. Also, these modernist Catholics get offended when marital debt is mentioned.

    There is nothing "natural" about NFP. These women are obviously just trying to find excuses to not pay the marital debt to their husbands. Pesky husband? With NFP, each month you can get a one week free apart from that pervert you live with!

    If the pregnancies are so dangerous that it would put the woman's life in danger, then why even risk conception during the women's "infertile" days. If the gravity of the consequence is so dire that you need to get a dispensation, how can you even risk a pregnancy by performing the marital act outside of when NFP allows you to? Shouldn't you just abstain until the wife's health problems are treated? Abstain completely or don't abstain at all. Concocting a scheme to avoid children while still engaging in the marital act is CONCEPTION. It is diabolical. If we can admit that NFP is permissible, then the Orthodox don't have it wrong when they say that non-abortifacient modes of contraception like condoms are permissible (which are obviously against the natural law).

    You will find that many young traditional Catholics completely deny that NFP is okay. It's not until you get up to the married demographic and older when you start seeing acceptance across the board of the "rhythm method." This tells me that the reasoning for people relenting to accept NFP is completely utilitarian. In theory, all Catholics deny it. It is not until they get married, that they convince themselves that they must have been misinformed in their younger and more foolish years. "How could God WANT me to have a child right now. A child is too much of a cross to bear... NOW I understand. God wouldn't want me to have a child right now! Besides... my husband has been slightly annoying lately with his advances... I guess now I have an excuse to ignore him!!!"

    At my SSPX parish, the young people in my friend circle (who all have differing views on the papacy, BoD, FSSP, etc etc.) are all completely unanimous in agreeing that to use NFP for the express purpose of avoiding a child is always a mortal sin. It is obvious. I do not see how one can convince themselves that NFP is not obviously against the natural law.

    Your wife using thermometers and reading charts every time before you enter into the marital act? Way to kill the mood. 
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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #9 on: August 09, 2024, 10:42:24 AM »
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  • Angry men because of frustration due to being with a cold wife.  Interesting to think what unseen affects are produced in the children. Disrespect possibly?  Alcoholism? 
    Yes, many of these women’s husbands have anger problems, alcoholism, addictions of some sorts, etc. Denying your husband like this is going to wreck him.

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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #10 on: August 10, 2024, 06:13:28 PM »
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  • a woman wanting to use NFP but her husband ends up becoming grumpy and irritable.
    Men actually do want children, despite what this contraceptive-mentality wife may think. To deny him children will make him "grumpy and irritable", because obviously (if he's a good Catholic husband) he married to have children.


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    Re: Catholic women shaming their husbands for not using nfp
    « Reply #11 on: August 13, 2024, 02:04:35 PM »
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  • NFP is not God's Design.  God's Design our anatomy/physilogy is not NFP.  What happened is the federal gov/t got a hold of God's Design and through in lies and half truths destroyed what was of God's Design.  I found this out, being a teacher under Dr. Billings.  Dr. Billings came to New Orleans in 1992 about.  I was there for more learning.  Dr. Billings spoke before us and was very mad! he said," This is God's NOT YOURS"! And left!  I knew later in a few months.  I was mailed papers to sign.  It was to receive federal $$. for NFP.  Oh, NO!  I was taught how to read federal grants for the state of AZ.  They took what Dr. Billings, a Catholic learnt and took those notes and even book and made sure there was no mention of God!  Used wrong phrases such as "unsafe" instead of "fertile" and such. I refused to work with dioceses and even the NFP groups, if they were not with God!  So, this all happening out a lot of error in and overlooked what God has Designed.

    I do believe in serious reasons.  Husband and Wife can learn when abstaining is needed, it is for serious reason.  It is not to get grumpy over for either spouse.  They both need prayerful lives to understand that we can appreciate what God has given us.  Abstaining before we married was very good for us.  There is more than sex,  souls are  involved.  We can love each other even more and better.  

    My suggestion is remember as you get closer to menopause, it is not just women it is very much men.  Men get menopause.  Know what your needs are in supplements. B complex, D3, B Stress and women Evening Prime Rose Oil.

    God is very good.  People may not see, that by NFP is wrong they may not see that God is being tossed out?  Communism is very clever.

    So, more for thought.