He is one of those can't-really-call-him-Trad's who opted to go Eastern Rite even though his family isn't from that part of the world, not at all. a few Catholics decide to change their nation/race and pretend they're oriental Catholics.

never pretended to be eastern rite. have always been Latin rite.  ps i do have family from that part of the world

I don't see how that's a solution -- I don't have any personal experience with the Eastern Rites, but I've heard they were ALL touched by Vatican II.

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from whom? Latin rite Catholics who as you say are not part of that world?

His long post about all the bad popes "all unmarried" tries to suggest that if they had been allowed to marry, they might not have had problems with purity.

false i do not believe in married Latin clergy. the list was a way of pointing out that the statement that celibacy was always the norm is not historically accurate otherwise Pope Gregory would not have had to make it mandatory.

He also claims that because we had a few bad popes who had concubines and other illicit partners, that it constitutes a sort of "tradition" of non-celibacy in the West. Give me a break! They flaunted morality and the rules. They don't count!

I never claimed that see above "false i do not believe in married Latin clergy"

In fact, I don't think there is any evidence that any priest, bishop or pope FATHERED CHILDREN (to put it delicately) while possessing the sacred character of the priesthood. If he had a wife, they either separated or lived as brother and sister.

 

why then were there canonical penalties for that very thing then?

celibacy is and will always be the norm for Latin rite priests. my point was  that men sin and even priests sin. that shows how beautiful celibacy is, the vast majority of priests and clerics are and will be celibate.

I never advocated married priesthood in the Latin Rite. period. [/i]

Pope Leo XIII responds:

It has most especially been the habit of the Roman Church, the head of all the Churches, to render to the Churches of the East a great degree of honor and love in remembrance of the Apostles, to rejoice in her turn in their faithful obedience. Amidst changing and difficult times, she has never failed in any way in farsightedness and acts of kindness to sustain them against the forces that would strike them again and again, to hold fast to those that were overwhelmed, to call back those in discord with her. Nor was it the last expression of her watchfulness that she guard and preserve in them whole and entire forever the customs and distinct forms for administering the sacraments that she had declared legitimate in her wise jurisdiction.

For that very reason, even as her Apostolic origin is all the more proven especially by these Churches of the East, at the selfsame moment there shines out and is made manifest these Churches' original, complete unity with the Roman Church.

Instead of going to chapels outside the Conciliar Church structure (SSPX, SSPV, CMRI, Independent, sedevacantist), or even within the Conciliar Church structure (Indult, FSSP, ICK), a few Catholics decide to change their nation/race and pretend they're oriental Catholics.

Leo XIII again:

To the faithful it is granted to receive Communion in any rite, not only in those locales where there is no church or priest of their own rite - as in the decree of the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith of 18 August 1893 - but also, when owing to the great distance of a church of their own rite, they are unable to assist except with serious inconvenience. In this case the judgment belongs to the Ordinary. This principle remains unchanged: One who receives Communion in another rite, even for a long time, is not on that account to be considered to have changed his rite.

Any Latin rite missionary, whether of the secular or religious clergy, who induces with his advice or assistance any Eastern rite faithful to transfer to the Latin rite, will be deposed and excluded from his benefice in addition to the ipso facto suspension a divinis and other punishments that he will incur as imposed in the aforesaid Constitution Demandatam. That this decree stand fixed and lasting We order a copy of it be posted openly in the churches of the Latin rite.

Anyone of an Eastern rite that resides outside the patriarchal territory will be under the administration of the Latin clergy

the above from Leo's encyclical on the eastern rites