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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Emotional abuse
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2025, 10:24:11 AM »
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  • Prayers for the women.  Prayers for the men.

    Our Lady of Good Counsel, pray for us.
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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #31 on: September 30, 2025, 04:41:12 PM »
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  • Let's not forget that men are sometimes abused by their wives. Both physical and emotional abuse.


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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #32 on: September 30, 2025, 11:30:10 PM »
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  • Planes, trains, automobiles.... people travel.
    Some do, some don't. My mother and my MIL have only ever met once, at our wedding. It was certainly out of her comfort zone to travel, but she did for that occasion. My family never met my FIL because FIL would not travel. And it's not just one-sided. My mother doesn't like to travel either, but she had the advantage of the wedding being local for her. I don't exclude myself from this trend, buy my reasons are different. While I agree with your list in theory, I just can't picture it playing out on a practical level for a long-distance relationship, especially if the families are not both Traditional Catholic.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #33 on: October 01, 2025, 05:34:13 AM »
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  • Let's not forget that men are sometimes abused by their wives. Both physical and emotional abuse.
    That’s true. It’s less common for women to physically abuse their husbands than it is vice versa but it does happen. I think women emotionally abusing husbands is more common. Something that is  not talked about enough. As well as women using child custody threats to make a man stay in relationship.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #34 on: October 01, 2025, 09:47:26 AM »
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  • Some do, some don't. My mother and my MIL have only ever met once, at our wedding. It was certainly out of her comfort zone to travel, but she did for that occasion. My family never met my FIL because FIL would not travel. And it's not just one-sided. My mother doesn't like to travel either, but she had the advantage of the wedding being local for her. I don't exclude myself from this trend, buy my reasons are different. While I agree with your list in theory, I just can't picture it playing out on a practical level for a long-distance relationship, especially if the families are not both Traditional Catholic.
    Every situation is different and the list was not meant to be a "catch-all" response. I was providing what our family does to pick up on red flags and to promote a good and holy match for marriage. I would encourage all to take what works for your family from the list and then add/subtract/modify or, create an entirely new list. The goal is to help in the success of a good and holy marriage.


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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #35 on: October 02, 2025, 07:50:13 AM »
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  • Agreed. Men need to be aware of red flags in the relationship as well.  

    Knowing different aspects of personality disorders is an excellent idea.  They seem to be extremely prevalent in our society today.  Which begs the question, is it truly a mental disorder or a mind disordered by sin?  But that is a topic for another thread!

    Knowing the different traits and what to look out for in terms of mental illness/disorders and abusive personalities would seem to go hand in hand.


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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #36 on: October 02, 2025, 08:28:31 AM »
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  • Let's not forget that men are sometimes abused by their wives. Both physical and emotional abuse.
    Yes a female family member of mine threatened to "Andrea Yates" her children if her husband didn't quit his job and move to ICA in Idaho.  He gave in and her mental illness charade didn't end there.  She staged a nervous breakdown when Francis was elected so they could go SV.  Then she was possessed when she got tired of the trad life and wanted to wear pants again.  He always caved and now they live a comfortable, non-Catholic life in the midwest.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #37 on: November 03, 2025, 05:10:21 PM »
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  • Didn't St. Paul say Fathers do better to not let their daughters marry?
    Yes, indeed!


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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #38 on: November 03, 2025, 05:20:59 PM »
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  • With enough time observing someone these types of disorders will become apparent. 
    Not always.
    I have a family member who was courted for five years (he wanted to be established prior to marriage).  He was slick and won the hearts of us all.  Immediately after the marriage he began abusing her: physically, sɛҳuąƖly, psychologically, financially, etc.  She bore it all in silence for 25 years and through many children before finally reaching out to family.  Turns out she had reached out to many priests who told her she had to grin and bear it all (in one form or another).  She couldn't take it anymore and finally separated. Turns out he lied to her and to us all before they married and she qualified for annulment.

    Now I encourage female family members to make sure to get a potential spouse really angry at some point in their courtship so they can see the man's reaction and evaluate it.  Sure has helped some avoid a disastrous marriage.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #39 on: November 03, 2025, 05:27:05 PM »
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    Now I encourage female family members to make sure to get a potential spouse really angry at some point in their courtship so they can see the man's reaction and evaluate it.  Sure has helped some avoid a disastrous marriage.
    Not necessarily bad advice as long as she remembers that "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" when he similarly tests her.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #40 on: November 03, 2025, 05:28:35 PM »
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  • Not necessarily bad advice as long as she remembers that "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" when he similarly tests her.
    Absolutely works both ways.


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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #41 on: November 03, 2025, 07:07:02 PM »
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  • Now I encourage female family members to make sure to get a potential spouse really angry at some point in their courtship so they can see the man's reaction and evaluate it.  Sure has helped some avoid a disastrous marriage.
    Don't do this, any good man will end the courtship over this disrespect. And some men really try to pacify their anger, so don't intentionally make them angry.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #42 on: November 03, 2025, 07:13:17 PM »
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  • Now I encourage female family members to make sure to get a potential spouse really angry at some point in their courtship so they can see the man's reaction and evaluate it.  Sure has helped some avoid a disastrous marriage.
    In other words, "I encourage female family members to sin, possibly mortally"

    By any chance, are you the same anonymous poster saying men should not marry to remediate their concupiscence?
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #43 on: November 03, 2025, 07:21:40 PM »
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  • Instead of using manipulation and passive-aggressive, childish tactics to discern one’s potential spouse, how about people pray more?  Ask God.  All of the poor marriages are a sign of a poor prayer life.  End of story. 

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    Re: Emotional abuse
    « Reply #44 on: November 03, 2025, 07:27:44 PM »
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  • Instead of using manipulation and passive-aggressive, childish tactics to discern one’s potential spouse, how about people pray more?  Ask God.  All of the poor marriages are a sign of a poor prayer life.  End of story.
    This is good advice.

     17 The sadness of the heart is every plague: and the wickedness of a woman is all evil  18 And a man will choose any plague, but the plague of the heart  19 And any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman  20 And any affliction, but the affliction from them that hate him

     21 And any revenge, but the revenge of enemies  [Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 25:17-21]


    Ladies please consider this truth of God and how many will view you if you do wickedness against them. That post about making someone angry is terrible, absolutely terrible and sinful.