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Re: Domestic Abuse
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2020, 10:09:26 AM »
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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #31 on: May 01, 2020, 10:16:38 AM »
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  • She does not report that he actually struck anyone, just used inflammatory language.
    Read her post again. She described physical abuse in it.


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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #32 on: May 01, 2020, 10:18:29 AM »
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  • Where do you live?  That doesn’t make sense to remove the children.  ( maybe husband called them???
    If he is a narcissist, I would definitely think this is the case.  I know of a very similar situation to the OP's where something extremely similar happened, and it was the husband who engineered it.

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    Re: Domestic Abuse
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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #36 on: May 05, 2020, 09:57:44 PM »
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  • Any husband that hits his wife is a coward. It’s not discipline.  

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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #37 on: May 05, 2020, 10:53:39 PM »
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  • Get a lawyer QUICK!  

    So many prayers for you right now, OP. God bless you.


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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #38 on: May 06, 2020, 04:51:54 AM »
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  • Hello...my husband has been physically and verbally abusive to me and our sons for about 3 years.  The abuse is shoving, grabbing, blocking exit from rooms, pounding on locked bathroom doors, very vulgar insults ("f___ing sacks of $hit", "f___ing lazy pieces of $shit").  He frequently tells me in front of the children that I'm a bitch, a bad Catholic, and that I'm Satanic.  He has threatened to kill us numerous times or beat us up.  Our attempts to not respond, to walk away are labeled as "disrespect towards the head of household".  He invents purposeless manual labor for my sons to do to "make them into men".  He often would be very demeaning and threatening to us and them call us to "family rosary" as if nothing happened.  It's really mentally confusing to us because he seems to have no remorse and acts as if he doesn't understand why we don't like him or want to be around him.  He shoved my son very hard into a door a few days ago because my son wouldn't leave us alone when my husband was screaming at me.  My son wanted to stay there because he was afraid for my safety.  I called the police and after investigating they didn't arrest my husband but they made him leave for the night.  They privately advised me to divorce him.  I didn't bother to explain to them that I'm a traditional Catholic and divorce is off the table.  He is well respected in our town and is an usher and security guard at our SSPX chapel.  He's also friends with the sheriff and many deputies here.  

    My husband is now coming and going as he pleases, not paying bills, works part time, and spending a lot of time laying on the couch watching tv and eating.  He filed a false report with the sheriff that I stole firearms from him.  They are still locked in his gun safes and never left the home so he is clearly delusional or a cunning liar.  I have an email from him in that he admits filing the report.  

    I don't know what to do.  Talking to a priest is a waste of time because I'm going to get more talk of "forgiving his brokenness" and I need to "help him" by giving more sex.  I am not exaggerating--that has been some of the advice I've received.  My husband was briefly seeing a counselor for anxiety and was told he is a narcissist.  If he had known what that is I'm certain he wouldn't have admitted it to me.  I have children in the home and I can't protect them and as they get older and bigger the abuse seems to be getting more severe.  He's very entitled and loves using traditional Catholic morality and the Bible to justify his abuse of us.

    What should I do?
    Ok, so I'm gonna be the one who say the emperor has no clothes.
    A number of things to note, and the OP can respond.
    Did you address the advice the priest gave you? Were you giving the marital act everytime he asked? You leave all that out.
    And you will understand why it sounds very suspicious when you talk in a cynical way about that advice. This is a remedy for most situations. If you had experience you would know that.
    Another bizarre thing in your post is your putting the family rosary in inverted commas. Why did you do this?
    Manual labour for your sons is a good thing. Why are you demeaning this?
    And pushing your son into the door may have been excessive ( I don't know for sure- cos your story seems so one sided) but he should have obeyed his father.
    Your dismissiveness of talking to another priest is also something that rings alarm bells for me. Why not find another priest? thats what I do when I have problems.

    Not working hard is sinful. Not paying the bills i sinful. Is your family is serious economic hardship though because of this? What makes you so confident that a separation is the way to go for you?

    Are you working yourself? This could be the cause of your inability to see things objectively.

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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #39 on: May 06, 2020, 06:06:15 AM »
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  • Ok, so I'm gonna be the one who say the emperor has no clothes.
    A number of things to note, and the OP can respond.
    Did you address the advice the priest gave you? Were you giving the marital act everytime he asked? You leave all that out.
    And you will understand why it sounds very suspicious when you talk in a cynical way about that advice. This is a remedy for most situations. If you had experience you would know that.
    Another bizarre thing in your post is your putting the family rosary in inverted commas. Why did you do this?
    Manual labour for your sons is a good thing. Why are you demeaning this?
    And pushing your son into the door may have been excessive ( I don't know for sure- cos your story seems so one sided) but he should have obeyed his father.
    Your dismissiveness of talking to another priest is also something that rings alarm bells for me. Why not find another priest? thats what I do when I have problems.

    Not working hard is sinful. Not paying the bills i sinful. Is your family is serious economic hardship though because of this? What makes you so confident that a separation is the way to go for you?

    Are you working yourself? This could be the cause of your inability to see things objectively.
    Good points! There's a chance this is the best response in the whole thread. I noticed many of these things myself.

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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #40 on: May 06, 2020, 06:21:02 AM »
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  • Good points! There's a chance this is the best response in the whole thread. I noticed many of these things myself.
    Thanks. Now let's see if she responds. My money is on that she won't....


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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #41 on: May 06, 2020, 01:19:12 PM »
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  • The last three posters demonstrate the same mindset that afflicted the SSPX priest who was unable and unwilling to listen to, believe or assist the OP.

    They forget that we live in a fallen world.

    They prefer to live in an illusory world where such things do not occur in traditional Catholic families.

    They chose their own illusions in order to protect themselves from the uncomfortable reality that bad things happen to good people.

    To the OP.
    You and your family are in my prayers.
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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #42 on: May 06, 2020, 01:56:33 PM »
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  • Dear OP  judging from recent anonymous posts I'd advise you not to answer them.  Some of the questions they ask are none of anyone's business.

    The verbal threats from your husband are enough for you to take protective action for you and your children.
    There are many so called Trad Catholics who use the bible etc to justify their own lack of knowledge of same and their personal shortcomings.

    You and your family are in my prayers.








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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #43 on: May 06, 2020, 02:19:49 PM »
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  • The last three posters demonstrate the same mindset that afflicted the SSPX priest who was unable and unwilling to listen to, believe or assist the OP.

    They forget that we live in a fallen world.

    They prefer to live in an illusory world where such things do not occur in traditional Catholic families.

    They chose their own illusions in order to protect themselves from the uncomfortable reality that bad things happen to good people.

    To the OP.
    You and your family are in my prayers.

    Cera,
    You do a great evil by not challenging her.
    You show exactly why women should not be allowed to judge in courts. Because you think with your emotions rather than your reason.
    There were numerous questionable facts in her account, and it is normal to want to know the truth behind them.
    I notice that you don't give any coherent responses to my questions. Instead you go for an ad hominem. This is a tactic frequently used by those who have no arguments.
    Vague allusions to problems with SSPX priests, and traditional men in general. This all stinks of feminism. A serious, perverse evil which has come into the heart of tradition. If we traditional Catholics cannot set a good example in our own homes, what hope is there for the restoration of the Church?
    I don't know why you are a traditional Catholic, but I am one because I choose to respect order. Order in the supernatural as well as the natural. Obedience to that order, not revolt against it.
    So far in her account we do not have a coherent reason as to why she should separate. A threat to kill is something that may have been said flippantly. It is irresponsible, but it is not a reason to break up a marriage and destroy the childrens lives.



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    Re: Domestic Abuse
    « Reply #44 on: May 06, 2020, 02:21:25 PM »
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  • Dear OP  judging from recent anonymous posts I'd advise you not to answer them.  Some of the questions they ask are none of anyone's business.

    The verbal threats from your husband are enough for you to take protective action for you and your children.
    There are many so called Trad Catholics who use the bible etc to justify their own lack of knowledge of same and their personal shortcomings.

    You and your family are in my prayers.
    She had no problem sharing a lot of private stuff. Why should she stop now? Because the questions are challenging her?
    Your post is judgemental in the extreme by the way.

    You should challenge someone as well as pray for them. They are not mutually exclusive.