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Author Topic: Does a potential spouse have a right to know sɛҳuąƖ history before marriage?  (Read 51194 times)

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Have these threads been soaked with egalitarianism the last 6 months?
This. Female virginity is not equal to male virginity. It's much greater. Even the claim of porn is an exaggeration.

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I agree with all of this.
Nevertheless, I don't want men to think that using porn is nothing. Having a history of porn use affects the man psychologically. Not to mention that porn use goes along with self abuse, and that does affect a man's ability to render the marital debt to his wife later. A man really is damaged goods, depending on how long and what kind of porn he used. I've heard horror stories of men being impotent while "being with" a 10 (a "dime", a supermodel) due to past porn use. He can't perform with a real woman.
Maybe porn use is worse, for a man, than having a single human female partner.
-a man
I used to watch porn, I've never had any issues with impotency. It's only when people start using extreme material to please themselves does it become a problem. As more 'vanilla' content does not get them going. Thanks to God I never went that far. 

The real problem with porn is that it turns you into a cuck. You are basically watching another man and taking pleasure in him doing a woman you find attractive. Porn + feminism has turned most men into cucks, the result in society speaks for itself. Too many men now think marrying a non -virgin woman is ok.


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I agree with all of this.
Nevertheless, I don't want men to think that using porn is nothing. Having a history of porn use affects the man psychologically. Not to mention that porn use goes along with self abuse, and that does affect a man's ability to render the marital debt to his wife later. A man really is damaged goods, depending on how long and what kind of porn he used. I've heard horror stories of men being impotent while "being with" a 10 (a "dime", a supermodel) due to past porn use. He can't perform with a real woman.
Maybe porn use is worse, for a man, than having a single human female partner.
-a man
Also I forgot to mention, a man can undo much of the damage from porn by quitting. Of course his memories of xyz content may be a source of temptation for him so he needs to try and forget, to let it go.

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Maybe porn use is worse, for a man, than having a single human female partner.
-a man
No really. A real partner means pair bonding. While I'm not sure how much barrier contraction negates this, a man having multiple real partners is a greater risk for long term relationship than porn use. Key word is multiple. And at least with porn there isn't (or shouldn't) be an emotional connection compared to having a girlfriend. So that's less for the woman to worry about.

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Woman can use porn as well.
Yeah and if she violates herself, breaks her hymen, takes her own virginity, I may not marry her.

Romance novels are also a problem and used much more than visual porn.


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Says the guy who helped make another woman's previous sɛҳuąƖ experience "absolutely disgusting". :facepalm:
Because men and woman are not equal. A man being second to his own wife... Yikes. You can't say the man had such an emotional experience losing his virginity like a woman, it's just not the same. Unless he is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ but that is completely different.

If a man isn't disgusted by the very fact that if he marrys a non -virgin it would means his wife has slept and gotten 'plowed' and dominated by other men then his manhood is suspect.

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Says the guy who helped make another woman's previous sɛҳuąƖ experience "absolutely disgusting". :facepalm:
Sorry I misread what you said. I did not do so. She was already a whore, she had 4 other men before me. I should not have assumed that she was a virgin. She was 18...

So I increased her damage by fornicating, but did not 'waste' her by taking her virginity because it was already gone.

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Sorry I misread what you said. I did not do so. She was already a whore, she had 4 other men before me. I should not have assumed that she was a virgin. She was 18...

So I increased her damage by fornicating, but did not 'waste' her by taking her virginity because it was already gone.
And obviously I do regret fornicating. I also regret using porn when younger. If I had know that these things were sins then I would never have done them. Secular + novus ordo is a disaster. It could have been so much worse for me, but thankfully God was still preventing me from damaging myself too much. But I can't deny that I would have less damage and be better off if I never did these things. Good thing I am a man so I can make up for my mistakes.

I really don't think women understand how men feel about their 'experience'. I have described it somewhat but I have not seen woman provide arguments to why a man being a non-virgin is a deal breaker (not talking about multiple partners).


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And obviously I do regret fornicating. I also regret using porn when younger. If I had know that these things were sins then I would never have done them. Secular + novus ordo is a disaster. It could have been so much worse for me, but thankfully God was still preventing me from damaging myself too much. But I can't deny that I would have less damage and be better off if I never did these things. Good thing I am a man so I can make up for my mistakes.

I really don't think women understand how men feel about their 'experience'. I have described it somewhat but I have not seen woman provide arguments to why a man being a non-virgin is a deal breaker (not talking about multiple partners).
My husband and I were virgins and I have considered a non-virgin man but i think he'd have to compensate in other areas. I wouldn't be able to deal with another woman or him having feelings for her(s). Matthew mentioned this in a post. It's definitely a risk to take a non-virgin man for me because I would feel like I might not be good enough (jealousy), that woman might come back in his life again (drama), he might compare me to her, etc. I want to feel like I'm the only woman in my husband's life. 

I definitely understand men valuing sɛҳuąƖ history more than women. It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me but it would bug me a bit. Maybe I'd get over it and accept that it was in the past. 

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What is done is done. Repentance is the most important aspect. Men and women have different psychologies. Fornication for men is different for women. For women it is usually because there is an absence of genuine male presence in her life. For a man, it can be jealousy over the "conquests" of other men, abuse of women, bestial lust and selfishness.

There are also virgins by desire - women who have lost their physical virginity but desire it back by spiritual means.

Now I am talking about Catholic men and women. For purely secular women, there are more reasons. But then again, ultimately, Catholics should really marry Catholics. Intermarriage of faith - while it can be part of God's plan - these marriages are more difficult than a purely Catholic marriage. 

If a Catholic was going to marry a secular person (for whatever reason) then caveat emptor. Those who have drunk deep from that particular cup will find it difficult to go steady.

Marriage in the Bible is associated with faithfulness or idolatry. When Israel misbehaved it cheated on God and played the harlot with pagan gods. When it was faithful, then God blessed Israel. Fertility cults under Asherah Poles in pagan High Places and dancing around the Gold Calf "When Moses saw that the people were running wild (for Aaron had let them run wild, to the derision of their enemies), - Exodus 32:25) might have been a lot of "fun" at the time, but it ended in "disaster". People get a taste for than kind of cankerous way of life that is difficult to let go.

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Ipsation

https://www.catholicmodesty.net/purity
Nice content except for this cringe feminist quote by a heretic.
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To a great extent the level of any civilization is the level of its womanhood. When a man loves a woman, he has to become worthy of her. The higher her virtue, the more noble her character, the more devoted she is to truth, justice, goodness, the more a man has to aspire to be worthy of her. The history of civilization could actually be written in terms of the level of its women.” Archbishop Fulton J Sheen


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There are also virgins by desire - women who have lost their physical virginity but desire it back by spiritual means.
This is nonsense no difference from that born again virgin crap. Once a woman has lost it it is gone and not coming back.

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This is nonsense no difference from that born again virgin crap. Once a woman has lost it it is gone and not coming back.
Ultimately, it is a physical barrier that can degrade naturally due to manual labor or physical exercise. Virginity is esteemed for spiritual reasons, rather than physical ones. A woman can keep her hymen but be a prideful, horrible person.

Similarly with circuмcision 

For in Christ Jesus neither circuмcision availeth any thing, nor uncircuмcision: but faith that worketh by charity. Galatians 5:6

A foreskin is just a prepuce. There is a greater spiritual dimension. 

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What is done is done. Repentance is the most important aspect. Men and women have different psychologies. Fornication for men is different for women. For women it is usually because there is an absence of genuine male presence in her life. For a man, it can be jealousy over the "conquests" of other men, abuse of women, bestial lust and selfishness.

There are also virgins by desire - women who have lost their physical virginity but desire it back by spiritual means.
It doesn't matter why you lost your virgnitity. It means your options for potential spouses might be limited. That's why it's best to be honest about your past so that someone has the means to be able to deal with it and make an informed decision for what they're signing up for. I get that the past is the past, but that doesn't change the facts that you're not a virgin. Guilt-tripping someone especially men to just forgive an forget someone's past is not going to end well.