If he isn't a heretic then there's no such thing as a heretic. . .

4 sure

If you look up the word: heretic in the dictionary, whose picture do you see?

LOL

but of course, not funny

He was recently quoted it is a mortal sin to convert non Catholics to the
Catholic Religion.
Francis is a heretic.

just when i thought i was beyond being horrified by what he says!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!


 :stare:

 :shocked:

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"It is worse to be a hypocrite than an atheist"

Atually he said "It is worse to be a hypocritical Catholic than an atheist"

For your information St. Alphonsus de Ligouri said essentially the same thing.

In this case Pope Francis makes sense. It is more logical to be an atheist than a Catholic who is living in unrepentant sin. At least the atheist doesn't know any better. Whereas the hypocritical Catholic professes to be a believer and acts like an atheist.

actually, no one has explained what "hypocrite" means!!

if you preach that one should not swear but every filthy word ever invented spews forth from your mouth when you are angry or frustrated, you are being a hypocrite. But you are not going to go to Hell over that (alone)

If you preach that the CAtholic religion is the one Christ established and then go about saying that we do not have any responsibility to tell OTHERS of that... THAT is hell-worthy

Yes, we are our brther's keeper

To be a known heretic, one must know they oppose dogmas in their heart and let it be known they oppose them.
It didn't take me long to figure out this guy hasn't a clue how to be a Catholic and in his fantasy-land thinks he is being a super Catholic. It would be like calling a lunatic in an asylum a heretic. Such is the corn that comes from him every second day that puts him in a class of his own. Sort of like that jerk who runs North Korea, and I don't hear any calling him a heretic. The only thing that can be guaranteed is God will not allow him to try to redefine or change dogma officially, only exercise his stupidity to journalists on an airplane.

Quote from: poche

Quote from: poche

"It is worse to be a hypocrite than an atheist"

Atually he said "It is worse to be a hypocritical Catholic than an atheist"

For your information St. Alphonsus de Ligouri said essentially the same thing.

In this case Pope Francis makes sense. It is more logical to be an atheist than a Catholic who is living in unrepentant sin. At least the atheist doesn't know any better. Whereas the hypocritical Catholic professes to be a believer and acts like an atheist.

actually, no one has explained what "hypocrite" means!!

if you preach that one should not swear but every filthy word ever invented spews forth from your mouth when you are angry or frustrated, you are being a hypocrite. But you are not going to go to Hell over that (alone)

If you preach that the CAtholic religion is the one Christ established and then go about saying that we do not have any responsibility to tell OTHERS of that... THAT is hell-worthy

Yes, we are our brther's keeper

To be a hypocrite is to profess to be a believing Catholic and live the life of an atheist.  

I think that some things he says have to be taken in context.  In a certain sense, it is worse to be a hypocrite Catholic than an atheist.  Sometimes speech isn't so clear cut black and white.  With what is said before, or after, there needs to be a little understanding and charity, especially after what we have in Vatican II.  We have in Vatican ziti the statements that we honor and esteem the God of the Muslimman, which is a little statement of reservation so to speak, or ecuмenical as we say now, but it is also true fully.  We simply have to deal with 8 billion people nowadays, and have to try to be munificent through all the billions of people, so it's reservation, and truth (if they are true muslims, we do esteem their God because they claim, of they are true moslems, to worship The a god of Abraham, if they are true moslems), and a little bit of this and that from the office of the Papacy in Rome.  I don't think we can dock Pope Francis for using reservation to level 10/10. I think we must give him the benefit of the doubt, and stand next to him, and defend him, as his Catholic children.

He's the Catholic Monarch, you know?  He is the Vicar-King.  It's not a democracy.  It's a Monarchy.  And he is the Monarch.  We have to stand behind him as a Monarch.

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He's the Catholic Monarch, you know?  He is the Vicar-King.  It's not a democracy.  It's a Monarchy.  And he is the Monarch.  We have to stand behind him as a Monarch.

Nope. I believe Francis is the pope, but very hesitantly so. He's going to introduce some major heresy soon. It's only a matter of when, not if.

Well, good to hear that you believe he is the Pope.  That is a good thing.  As to the rest, that post sounds like bleak outlook, but that's about it.  Just remember that if he were the Pope, you would need to give him the benefit of the doubt at reservation level 10/10, if he were the Pope.