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Offline SimpleMan

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Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2021, 03:25:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 12, 2021, 02:05:05 AM
    If you found out one of your parishioners was an ex ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ what would you do?
    Nothing.  (Except pray for him, that he might persevere and not slip back into that lifestyle.)

    Please provide examples of something a person might "do" if they found this out about a fellow parishioner, and why they should do it.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #16 on: July 12, 2021, 09:44:13 AM »
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    • I don't hate him. I just think he still displays the flaws of his past by wanting to be center-stage. We are all sinners but true humility usually saves us from a fall.
    Apparently Fr Corapi is back in his SOLT monastery quietly doing penance for the rest of his life. His fame and notoriety was a recipe for a fall considering he had experienced a world of sin and then immediately became a religious "personality". It doesn't work.
    At least he (Fr Corapi) now knows what works.
    I commend Michael Voris for his conversion and rejection of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, but he shouldn't be out front as a leader. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism seeks attention always ( look at Milo- he is an anchor on Trunews-LOL) and that needs to be broken.
    A quiet life of prayer and penance may be in order. There are some weird things about the whole Church Militant organization that is asking to be discredited which will just demoralize his Catholic "conservative" viewership.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #17 on: July 12, 2021, 10:29:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 12, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
    I don't hate him. I just think he still displays the flaws of his past by wanting to be center-stage. We are all sinners but true humility usually saves us from a fall.
    Apparently Fr Corapi is back in his SOLT monastery quietly doing penance for the rest of his life. His fame and notoriety was a recipe for a fall considering he had experienced a world of sin and then immediately became a religious "personality". It doesn't work.
    At least he (Fr Corapi) now knows what works.
    I commend Michael Voris for his conversion and rejection of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, but he shouldn't be out front as a leader. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism seeks attention always ( look at Milo- he is an anchor on Trunews-LOL) and that needs to be broken.
    A quiet life of prayer and penance may be in order. There are some weird things about the whole Church Militant organization that is asking to be discredited which will just demoralize his Catholic "conservative" viewership.
    Good post.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #18 on: July 12, 2021, 12:42:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 12, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
    I don't hate him. I just think he still displays the flaws of his past by wanting to be center-stage. We are all sinners but true humility usually saves us from a fall.
    Apparently Fr Corapi is back in his SOLT monastery quietly doing penance for the rest of his life. His fame and notoriety was a recipe for a fall considering he had experienced a world of sin and then immediately became a religious "personality". It doesn't work.
    At least he (Fr Corapi) now knows what works.
    I commend Michael Voris for his conversion and rejection of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, but he shouldn't be out front as a leader. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism seeks attention always ( look at Milo- he is an anchor on Trunews-LOL) and that needs to be broken.
    A quiet life of prayer and penance may be in order. There are some weird things about the whole Church Militant organization that is asking to be discredited which will just demoralize his Catholic "conservative" viewership.

    I couldn't have said it better myself. Hit all the points I would have wanted to hit, if I had composed a post. Excellent post!

    Outline of what I would have wanted to say: 
    - Don't hate him
    - Link between ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and narcissism
    - Inappropriateness of converts/"magdalens" taking center stage, as the most famous "Catholic" personalities
    - Would be better for them to do penance out of the public eye -- they need to learn first and/or solidify themselves in Virtue first. FOR MANY YEARS.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #19 on: July 12, 2021, 03:37:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 12, 2021, 12:42:05 PM
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Hit all the points I would have wanted to hit, if I had composed a post. Excellent post!

    Outline of what I would have wanted to say:
    - Don't hate him
    - Link between ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and narcissism
    - Inappropriateness of converts/"magdalens" taking center stage, as the most famous "Catholic" personalities
    - Would be better for them to do penance out of the public eye -- they need to learn first and/or solidify themselves in Virtue first. FOR MANY YEARS.

    And I enthusiastically "THIRD" this response.  To consider him unfit to be a spokesman for Catholicism is not the same as "hatred".  OP is creating a false dichotomy.  On one level, I kindof like the guy ... apart from the remnants of those personality traits he retains from his sodomite days.  I admire him for his having corresponded with the grace to reject and abandon his former sinful ways.  But he's unfit to represent Catholicism.

    Now, he could be invaluable in helping sodomites find a path out from their sin, so if he could do some kind of podcast or write some book along those lines, then I would be all for it.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #20 on: July 12, 2021, 03:38:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 12, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
    Apparently Fr Corapi is back in his SOLT monastery quietly doing penance for the rest of his life. His fame and notoriety was a recipe for a fall considering he had experienced a world of sin and then immediately became a religious "personality". It doesn't work.

    I give him about a year or two before he's back out on stage and in front of the cameras.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #21 on: July 12, 2021, 03:54:39 PM »
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    • I believe Voris is Gen X, but I nominate him as an honorary Boomer.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #22 on: July 12, 2021, 03:57:16 PM »
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    • It is not just his history of sodomy. That Joseph Sciambra guy isn't as bad as Voris.  
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #23 on: July 12, 2021, 04:11:23 PM »
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    • Michael Voris had confession was of a invalid priest of the New Order?  Well, this cannot be overlooked.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #24 on: July 12, 2021, 11:05:00 PM »
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    • Agree about Milo.  Seems wrong to be hearing from such people.  Can't just get a regular job, etc.?
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #25 on: July 13, 2021, 03:25:10 AM »
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    • Who is Michael Voris?  No, I don’t hate him.  Can’t hate someone you don’t know!  Even if he’s a scoundrel, we shouldn’t actually hate anyone.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #26 on: July 13, 2021, 03:00:29 PM »
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #27 on: July 13, 2021, 04:17:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on July 12, 2021, 11:05:00 PM
    Agree about Milo.  Seems wrong to be hearing from such people.  Can't just get a regular job, etc.?

    They probably can't get regular jobs that pay much higher than minimum wage.  It's why they try to make a living off their media appearances.
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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #28 on: July 13, 2021, 06:22:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on July 11, 2021, 09:03:14 PM
    Yes, we hate sin as God hates sin. But we do not hate other men because God does not hate men, but the wickedness in men. Do not hate Voris in himself, but hate that his sin and error that makes him a man of contempt and pray for him. The same is expected of Bergoglio or any wicked man.
    God commands us to love our enemies, not love the enemies of God. It is permitted to hate the enemies of God, for God hates His enemies, too.

    read Psalms, Malachi and Romans. 

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    Re: Do You Hate Michael Voris?
    « Reply #29 on: July 14, 2021, 12:36:47 PM »
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    • I could never hate him. I just cannot take him seriously. I recall someone saying they spotted him recently in his usual Detroit gym checking out men. Even without that and the ludicrous story of Mrs Niles deserting her family, after a vision, for known sodomite (at least in the past), his tales about the SSPX seem to make him more of a figure of fun. Now people in his cult, those who go on his cruises, buy his books, are still fooled. I hope I never hated him. If I hate someone, may God set me right.
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