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Do you believe in Limbo?
« on: September 01, 2013, 05:24:27 PM »
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  • Do you believe in Limbo, or do you think that even infants suffer in the fires of hell, or do you believe that people who die in original sin alone somehow go to heaven (which is what I think the Novus Ordo believes)?


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #1 on: September 01, 2013, 06:49:39 PM »
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  • Of course I believe in Limbo. Infants that are not baptized go there if they die. Therefore you better make sure your infant gets baptized as soon as he / she is born, ideally within hours.


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #2 on: September 02, 2013, 09:29:50 AM »
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  • Yup.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 12:18:14 PM »
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  • Unless a man be born again, of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of Heaven, John iii, 5.

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 01:43:32 PM »
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  • Infants do not suffer from the Fires of Hell. They cannot be punished as somebody who has rejected God and has died in mortal sin. Their punishment is the loss of the Beatific vision in Limbo as they have Adam’s sin.

    Novus Ordo proposes a new "hypothesis". They say: We do not deny the dogma!, we agree everybody who dies with original sin is deprived of Beatific vision but as the Mercy of God is Infinite, if an infant dies without being baptized, God can “baptize” him/her giving the graces of Baptism moments before the child dies (maybe before the soul is completely separated from the body or something similar)


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #5 on: September 02, 2013, 01:52:08 PM »
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  • Isn't limbo supposed to be a very happy, comfortable place, only not actually heaven, where one would also have the beatific vision?

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 01:55:34 PM »
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  • St. Thomas said "Children while in the mother's womb have not yet come forth into the world to live among other men. Consequently they cannot be subject to the action of man, so as to receive the sacrament, at the hands of man, unto salvation. They can, however, be subject to the action of God, in Whose sight they live, so as, by a kind of privilege, to receive the grace of sanctification; as was the case with those who were sanctified in the womb."

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 02:04:39 PM »
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  • Saint Thomas Aquinas said they enjoy a natural happiness and do not suffer from sensible pains and but they are deprived of the Beatific Vision.

    http://www.sspxasia.com/Newsletters/1997/November/St%20Thomas%20on%20the%20Limbo%20of%20Children.htm


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 02:23:05 PM »
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  • "Souls who depart this life in the state of original sin are excluded from the Beatific Vision of God" is a Dogma of Faith.


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 02:47:52 PM »
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  • I am the OP. I believe in Limbo, but was curious to see if we have any posters here who think that infants suffer in the fires of Hell as I think Saint Augustine believed, and also curious to see if any posters here think the souls of those who die in original sin are saved and go to heaven like a Novus Ordo priest I know.

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 03:19:43 PM »
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  • If the Church taught that babies unbaptized go to heaven, can you IMAGINE how many people would use abortion as an excuse to "mercy kill" their children?! Think of the implications, and then remember what the Church has definitively taught about entrance into heaven.

    You must be baptized, you must be a Catholic, and you must be free from actual sin to be saved. That's it!
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 04:01:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Guest
    I am the OP. I believe in Limbo, but was curious to see if we have any posters here who think that infants suffer in the fires of Hell as I think Saint Augustine believed, and also curious to see if any posters here think the souls of those who die in original sin are saved and go to heaven like a Novus Ordo priest I know.


    Tell your Novus Ordo priest he is denying a Dogma of Faith. The Church didn’t abrogate Limbo as the media said, but spread confussion proposing a new “hypothesis”.

    Saint Augustine was the first to teach about Limbo.


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    Isn't limbo supposed to be a very happy, comfortable place, only not actually heaven, where one would also have the beatific vision?


    When you contemplate Beatific Vision you are in Heaven.

    Saint Thomas said there are 4 sections of Hell: Gehenna for those who die in mortal sin and where the demons are, The Limbo of the Fathers or Abraham’s bosom (now vacant), The Limbo of the Children and Purgatory.

    In both Abraham’s bosom and Limbo of the Children there is no sensible pain and souls enjoy a natural happiness

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 04:54:08 PM »
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  • Yes, Limbo is a place of natural happiness, but without the beatific vision.  It is for those who were born but died without baptism and who were incapable of actual sin.  Limbo is occupied by babies, young children, and those of infantile mental capability.  For example, the 12 year old son of a Jєωιѕн couple died of pneumonia.  Nathan was born missing most of his brain.  His behaviour was that of a newborn infant.  Perhaps less.  He never focused his eyes, showed recognition of others, was fed by a tube as he could not suck or swallow.  Being Jєωιѕн, he wasn't baptised.  When he died, he was the size of a 2 1/2 year old despite being 12.  He was incapable of committing personal sin.  I could be wrong, but I do not believe God is punishing him with fire.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    Do you believe in Limbo?
    « Reply #13 on: September 02, 2013, 07:04:47 PM »
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  • Then his loss was his gain, hard though his life must have been. God is always merciful! and Just.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.