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Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
« on: April 07, 2017, 04:31:13 PM »
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  • if all that Fox News tells us on this topic is true

    then I am totally behind Trump

    but here is a question Fox and no other media source that i know of has answered:

    WHY?

    Why would Assad attack his own people?

    anyone?


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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 04:43:28 PM »
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  • So since Assad supposedly killed a few dozen civilians with chemical weapons we will go in there and kill a million civilians with bombs and missiles and possibly start a war with Russia. Yeah. That makes sense.


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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 10:59:37 PM »
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  • Some bits from a recent interview with Assad:

    "You can assume in any case that these terrorists are fighting for Israel. Even if they are not a regular Israeli army, they are still fighting for Israel. And Israel shares the objectives with Turkey, the United States, France, Britain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and other states. They all share the same objective”
     
     “Israel is doing its best to support these terrorists in every place the Syrian army advances. They attack in one way or another in order to provide support to the terrorists and in order to stall the momentum of the Syrian Arab Army in facing them,”
     
     “They do not fight it (terrorism)…The fact of the matter is that they use terrorism as a card to achieve different political agendas, even when this terrorism backfires and claims victims in their own countries. But they do not acknowledge this fact.”
     
     “Europe, or a number of European countries, support terrorists on a large scale, send to Syria tens of thousands of terrorists, or support them directly and indirectly, logistically, with arms, money, political cover, and everything,”
     
     “In general terms, the American policy is based on creating chaos in different parts of the world and creating conflicts among states.”
     
     “Through these conflicts, it secures a foothold through the contradictions and through its proxies who are already there but were able to become prominent because of the new circuмstances. And then it takes part in bargaining in order to secure its interests in that region,”

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 02:27:33 AM »
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  • if all that Fox News tells us on this topic is true

    then I am totally behind Trump

    but here is a question Fox and no other media source that i know of has answered:

    WHY?

    Why would Assad attack his own people?

    anyone?
    Assad attacked the people because they are percieved as part of the uprising. He did this to the women and children so that they would not grow up to be against him. This is their mentality. This was what his father did when there was an uprising in Homs a little more than a generation ago.    

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 02:29:20 AM »
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  • Assad attacked the people because they are percieved as part of the uprising. He did this to the women and children so that they would not grow up to be against him. This is their mentality. This was what his father did when there was an uprising in Homs a little more than a generation ago.    
    By the way I am not in favor of the United States getting involved in this mess. It will only make things worse.


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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 03:48:49 AM »
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  • Assad attacked the people because they are percieved as part of the uprising. He did this to the women and children so that they would not grow up to be against him. This is their mentality. This was what his father did when there was an uprising in Homs a little more than a generation ago.    
    Poche, you can't be that dumb.
    Russia and Syria had beaten the terrorists. This attack only helps the terrorists -- but the USA backing terrorist groups is nothing new. And the USA wanting regime change like a spoiled brat wants a new toy is nothing new, either.
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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 06:14:31 AM »
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  • Assad attacked the people because they are percieved as part of the uprising. He did this to the women and children so that they would not grow up to be against him. This is their mentality. This was what his father did when there was an uprising in Homs a little more than a generation ago.    
    Assad did not attack his people.  This is a lie.  This lie will come out in the fullness of time, even to people too dense to read between the lines and see what's really going on.  
    This attack only helps ISIS, and it further drives the Christians back into enclaves, ready to be slaughtered--as it was in Iraq.  That airbase was being used by Assad to attack ISIS.  This week, Trump helped ISIS.  

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 06:50:02 AM »
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  • Assad did not attack his people.  This is a lie.  This lie will come out in the fullness of time, even to people too dense to read between the lines and see what's really going on.  
    This attack only helps ISIS, and it further drives the Christians back into enclaves, ready to be slaughtered--as it was in Iraq.  That airbase was being used by Assad to attack ISIS.  This week, Trump helped ISIS.  
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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #8 on: April 08, 2017, 08:19:01 AM »
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  • According to one source, the military base was essentially protecting one of the majority Christian towns in Syria.  It's destruction will pave the way for ISIS to invade.  If Assad did authorize chemical weapons, then he's a complete idiot.  Frankly, it makes more sense that the "rebels" used the chemical weapons and then blamed Assad in order to get the U.S. to take care of their enemy.

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #9 on: April 08, 2017, 09:26:53 AM »
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  • Your are correct TKGS.  Even the Pentagon trained Isis and the rebels how to use chemical weapons.  The truth just 
    cannot be hidden.   

    PENTAGON TRAINED SYRIA’S AL QAEDA “REBELS” IN THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS:

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Pentagon_Trained_Syria%E2%80%99s_Al_Qaeda_%E2%80%9CRebels%E2%80%9D_in_the_Use_of_Chemical_Weapons/57792/0/38/38/Y/M.html

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #10 on: April 08, 2017, 10:21:06 AM »
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  • Precisely the reason I've voted only twice, the last time being 1979 for Reagan.  They're ALL on one or the other side of the coins of Judas; which ALL belong to the Jєωs, the betrayer of Christ and Church.   


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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #11 on: April 08, 2017, 12:56:17 PM »
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  • Robert Parry on how the same NYT lying journalist who got us into Iraq are again falsely drumming up support for another war in Syria: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/05/another-dangerous-rush-to-judgment-in-syria/

    Nafeez Ahmed exploring the Kissinger connection and the strategic thinking behind the White House’s actions: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/trumps-syria-strike-inspired-dangerous-vision-cauldronising-middle-east-2138445408

    Dean Baker asking the question: how much did Trumps buddies make by betting on oil futures? Big question is how much money Trump’s buddies made betting on futures? https://t.co/ejBTCJNDEm

    Moon of Alabama with a good analysis and arguments for why it was likely the rebels that did this: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html

    OPCW official urging caution and sayingn we dont know who did it https://www.channel4.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-reaction
    Vijay Prishad on why its unlikely Assad did it and how its unknown who did but likely the rebels: http://www.alternet.org/world/trump-going-commit-next-great-american-catastrophe-syria

    Another good account of how the rebels stand to gain everything from this, qui bono? http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/idlib-chemical-attack-al-qaeda-syria-trump

    More Robert Parry on the lies of NYT and an honest history of the whole CW’s lies https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/06/nyt-retreats-on-2013-syria-sarin-claims/

    Good analysis of events by Middle Eastern reporter on teh ground in teh area who is very honest and reliable: https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/did-assad-use-chemical-weapons-on-khan-shaikhoun-to-score-an-own-goal-in-the-international-arena/

    Mnar Muhawesh interview dissecting the lies of the govt narrative https://www.facebook.com/mnar.a.muhawesh/posts/1100739810032194

    An accoutn of how Trump effectively sent a message to the extremists that they can use chemical weapons and the US wont look for evidence or proof and just blame it on Assad, and in that way can easily call in US airstrikes to improve their battlefield positons https://www.facebook.com/stevechovanec/posts/10158509532025475

    A good round up w links by Mnar right after the CW attacks took place, asking the right questions and bringing up how the rebels have CW and used them before https://www.facebook.com/mnar.a.muhawesh/posts/1097089940397181

    Heres more info on the White House plan as it was before the CW attack, how they were pursuing a path of military occupation in the guise of “fighting ISIS” that was meant to balkanize and break up the country: https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/03/27/washington-is-uprooting-part-of-syria-demarcating-its-new-safe-heaven/
    More on US/Europe plan to split up the country: 


    Europe and the US have a plan to divide Syria but not to halt the war

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #12 on: April 08, 2017, 04:20:22 PM »
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  • So since Assad supposedly killed a few dozen civilians with chemical weapons we will go in there and kill a million civilians with bombs and missiles and possibly start a war with Russia. Yeah. That makes sense.
    the pres was very careful about killing people nearby

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  • There is sufficient proof that assad did not commit the chemical attacks a few years ago with the last red line.  It was the rebels who did it. And, he handed over his chemical weapons to broker peace.  So, why the heck would he do this now, and where did he get the weapons?  None of that adds up or makes sense.  What does make sense is what assad and russia have said happened.  And, that is, that they bombed an weapons warehouse held by the rebels, where apparently gas weapons happened to be.  And, that is the way that gas escape, if it did at all.  We have seen too many crisis actors in the recent past to dismiss it.  
    i guess it all comes down to whom do you trust?
    i know one thing: we cannot trust the media. I remember how the media pushed Trump and treated Cruz like a red-haired stepchild
    so... yeh... doesn't exactly engender trust. And also, why didn't Fox tell us of all the things Trump is capable of.. like getting jobs back from overseas. In t he beginning and almost until the end, we really did not get much of that kind of info... so.. again... whom can we trust?
    who do YOU trust? I mean, sometimes i hear things on this forum and i think: HUH? Where does that person get his/her info?
    where indeed... that is the key question

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    Re: Do you agree w/ what Trump is doing in Syria? mixed feelings
    « Reply #14 on: April 08, 2017, 04:32:07 PM »
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  • the pres was very careful about killing people nearby
    Now that's an intelligent statement.  :facepalm: