Author Topic: do women that dont take their husbands last name commit a mortal sin? (Read 2527 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** July 25, 2016, 04:26:07 PM »

would it be seen as not obeying your husband?

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2016, 04:32:16 PM »

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would it be seen as not obeying your husband?

It would scream feminist liberal -- and it would scream correctly.

Nadir · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2016, 06:30:17 PM »

What about the situation where a woman is already established in a public career, for example Doctor Mary Smith marries Mr James Green. I believe that once she is registered as a doctor she cannot change her professional name. She is still Mrs Green to her friends, but she is Dr Smith to her patints and colleagues. I don't believe that would constitute sin.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2016, 06:54:59 PM »

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What about the situation where a woman is already established in a public career, for example Doctor Mary Smith marries Mr James Green. I believe that once she is registered as a doctor she cannot change her professional name. She is still Mrs Green to her friends, but she is Dr Smith to her patints and colleagues. I don't believe that would constitute sin.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the sinful/not-sinful nature of such a case, but a few comments:

1. I'm not sure that's the case -- that you can't change your professional name. You might not be able to get a new framed Degree printed by your alma mater with your new name on it...

2. It's kind of messed up that "Dr. Mary Smith" does the breadwinning for that family. Heaven help her if she ever gets pregnant, or I suppose she's doing things to take care of that?

3. My wife was a licensed CPA when I met her, but that didn't stop her from changing her last name at marriage. CPAs have to sit for an exam, much like lawyers undergo a "Bar Exam". CPAs have to pay a yearly license fee, and do continuing education to maintain their CPA license. If they let it lapse for a year or two, they have to re-take the CPA exam again from scratch!

4. Shortly after our oldest was born, we let the CPA licensing drop. Which made perfect sense, since her working days were over. She started keeping busy as a stay-at-home-mom and homeschooler. Since then, we have had a steady series of babies -- which is average, normal, and to be expected for a healthy Catholic couple not contracepting.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2016, 07:03:04 PM »

The CPA exam is actually more difficult than the bar exam. You are a lucky man.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2016, 07:29:03 PM »

Gonna have to go with raging feminist on this one.

Not taking your husbands last name is a sign of disrespect and unwillingness to be submissive IMO.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2016, 07:36:16 PM »

What about men who take their wives' name at marriage? You can do that in some places.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2016, 08:27:43 PM »

With regards to the "professional name" situation, it's fairly common in academia or other professions where publishing is an important part of what you do. It can be a problem when your new publications can't be searched under the same name as the old ones. It's perfectly possible to continue publishing under a maiden name even after taking a married name though, so it shouldn't ever be a real issue even in those situations. I know at least one person who has done that.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2016, 05:15:07 AM »

The actual act of refusing to take his name may not be a sin but the attitude behind that has got to be rebellion. IMHO a Catholic who loves the Church and her teachings wouldn't refuse to take his name or she might be scandalizing others who are weak in their faith.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2016, 06:16:57 PM »

In some Latin American countries they'll actually concatenate their maiden name with their husband's using "y". And I've seen professional women do the old Smith Jones type of thing (without the hyphen) and then gradually transition over. Really it depends on the reasons for it and the attitude behind it.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2016, 10:19:29 AM »

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What about the situation where a woman is already established in a public career, for example Doctor Mary Smith marries Mr James Green. I believe that once she is registered as a doctor she cannot change her professional name. She is still Mrs Green to her friends, but she is Dr Smith to her patints and colleagues. I don't believe that would constitute sin.

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I've seen professional women do the old Smith Jones type of thing (without the hyphen) and then gradually transition over. Really it depends on the reasons for it and the attitude behind it

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With regards to the "professional name" situation, it's fairly common in academia or other professions where publishing is an important part of what you do. It can be a problem when your new publications can't be searched under the same name as the old ones. It's perfectly possible to continue publishing under a maiden name even after taking a married name though, so it shouldn't ever be a real issue even in those situations. I know at least one person who has done that.

The women under discussion continuing full-time careers after marriage (I'm assuming in the absence of necessity), publishing papers and running medical practices or whatever, is more feminist and sinful than whatever they're doing with their last names.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2016, 12:18:53 PM »

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What about the situation where a woman is already established in a public career, for example Doctor Mary Smith marries Mr James Green. I believe that once she is registered as a doctor she cannot change her professional name. She is still Mrs Green to her friends, but she is Dr Smith to her patints and colleagues. I don't believe that would constitute sin.

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I've seen professional women do the old Smith Jones type of thing (without the hyphen) and then gradually transition over. Really it depends on the reasons for it and the attitude behind it

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With regards to the "professional name" situation, it's fairly common in academia or other professions where publishing is an important part of what you do. It can be a problem when your new publications can't be searched under the same name as the old ones. It's perfectly possible to continue publishing under a maiden name even after taking a married name though, so it shouldn't ever be a real issue even in those situations. I know at least one person who has done that.

The women under discussion continuing full-time careers after marriage (I'm assuming in the absence of necessity), publishing papers and running medical practices or whatever, is more feminist and sinful than whatever they're doing with their last names.

women working is sinful? i thought it just wasn't recommended. so there might be women in hell because they worked outside the home?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2016, 05:12:04 PM »

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What about the situation where a woman is already established in a public career, for example Doctor Mary Smith marries Mr James Green. I believe that once she is registered as a doctor she cannot change her professional name. She is still Mrs Green to her friends, but she is Dr Smith to her patints and colleagues. I don't believe that would constitute sin.

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I've seen professional women do the old Smith Jones type of thing (without the hyphen) and then gradually transition over. Really it depends on the reasons for it and the attitude behind it

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With regards to the "professional name" situation, it's fairly common in academia or other professions where publishing is an important part of what you do. It can be a problem when your new publications can't be searched under the same name as the old ones. It's perfectly possible to continue publishing under a maiden name even after taking a married name though, so it shouldn't ever be a real issue even in those situations. I know at least one person who has done that.

The women under discussion continuing full-time careers after marriage (I'm assuming in the absence of necessity), publishing papers and running medical practices or whatever, is more feminist and sinful than whatever they're doing with their last names.

women working is sinful? i thought it just wasn't recommended. so there might be women in hell because they worked outside the home?

Let me flip it around. Do you think men can go to hell for ignoring or rejecting their duties as fathers and husbands?

Nadir · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2016, 06:30:55 PM »

In Italy, a woman must keep her birth surname after marriage, whether she wants to or not. My Ausralian passport is in my married name but my European passport is in my maiden name. This is not my choice; the same goes for my health records. That's just as the law demands.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2016, 06:15:25 PM »

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