Author Topic: do we need stricter gun control if not Australia-style gun confiscation? (Read 2345 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** February 16, 2018, 06:12:38 AM »

after the Florida shooting, people have been saying that this is the way we can make America safer. what do you think?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2018, 08:46:39 AM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 08:45:29 AM

First thing Hitler did was take away the guns.

I thought that was the second thing he did. I thought the first thing he did was preach the need to take away the guns.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2018, 10:04:48 AM »

No, confiscation of weapons from the honest law abiding citizen never lowers crime and on the contrary causes the
rise in crime.
There was a interview with a black gang member in Chicago and he was asked where he got his guns. He said that
they have been deliberately dropped in the allies in the black neighborhoods by men in camouflage suits driving
military style vehicles.
Also if you have the correct machinery, guns can be manufactured in a garage.
Liberals, leftists and socialist love high crime rates. It is a control mechanism to force their agenda on society.
And since the jails and prisons are full, it is now a revolving door.
Many of these mass shootings are fαℓѕє fℓαgs and executed by the governments to remove guns from the
honest people by preying on their emotions and fall for the false propaganda to surrender their weapons.

Meg · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2018, 12:07:43 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 10:04:48 AM

No, confiscation of weapons from the honest law abiding citizen never lowers crime and on the contrary causes the
rise in crime.
There was a interview with a black gang member in Chicago and he was asked where he got his guns. He said that
they have been deliberately dropped in the allies in the black neighborhoods by men in camouflage suits driving
military style vehicles.
Also if you have the correct machinery, guns can be manufactured in a garage.
Liberals, leftists and socialist love high crime rates. It is a control mechanism to force their agenda on society.
And since the jails and prisons are full, it is now a revolving door.
Many of these mass shootings are fαℓѕє fℓαgs and executed by the governments to remove guns from the
honest people by preying on their emotions and fall for the false propaganda to surrender their weapons.

I agree. American citizens need to be able to defend themselves.

I'm not surprised that a black gang member said that guns had been deliberately dropped in alleys in black neighborhoods.

Leftists do like high crime rates. They have offered no alternative that I know of to Trump's wall on the border of Mexico. They don't seem to care about the violence and mayhem created by Mexican gangs.

I think that there will be a continuance of mass shooting events - at least one a month or so. I don't think that all mass shooting events are a government fαℓѕє fℓαg - but there are way too many of them nowadays. I think that some or many are instigated by the deep state.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2018, 01:42:34 PM »

I don't even know what is the Deep State.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2018, 01:49:39 PM »

It's not a gun issue. Notice that all the school shootings take place in public schools. The public school system is completely morally bankrupt and the adults have lost all control of the children. They try to fix problem children with mood medications. You add that with our societal problems and our entertainment industry that preaches nothing immorality and violence. I just think a lot of kids grow up feeling like something is missing in their lives. Life is completely meaningless to them. They were raised in a godless society. There is no sense of the sacred. All taboos have been broken. Are we so shocked that a society like ours could produce such monsters? We blame guns because liberals can't place the blame on themselves for destroying our morality.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2018, 05:46:30 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 01:42:34 PM

I don't even know what is the Deep State.

The Deep State are mostly Obama appointed civil servants that are protected from firing and being discharged
from their duties. They are also Democrats and some Republicans that want to protect the status quo in
steering the U.S. to a one world government and a one world currency.
They are also CEO's of big corporations and some military whom goals are a one world UN government.
Many of the Deep Staters are anti-christians and anti-Catholic. Many are Jєωs and want Israel rule
the world and the gentiles be their slaves.
Obama's Mother was Jєωιѕн.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2018, 07:05:13 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 06:12:38 AM

after the Florida shooting, people have been saying that this is the way we can make America safer. what do you think?

This is another staged shooting (sure real people died), but the FBI dropped the lead and refused to follow up. This is crucial.
Yes, this shooting was staged and allowed to happen so that snowflakes could scream for more GUN CONTROL.
If teachers or administrators were allowed to have guns, and if remote cameras were installed in all the halls with constant viewing of these halls, then perhaps the shooter would not have advanced so far.
And where were the gun detectors at the door of the school? That would have prevented Cruz from entering the building, and it would have set off all sorts of alarms. The school failed as the school should have had metal detectors and should have alerted the FBI and local police as soon as this mass shooter was suspended.
The system failed the students who were killed.
FIRE THE FBI DIRECTORS and his hired cabal who want to undermine Trump. Fire all the DEEP STATE OPERATIVES.

St Ignatius · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2018, 08:50:22 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 08:45:29 AM

First thing Hitler did was take away the guns.

Chapter and verse please...

Not my preferable source to cite, but it'll suffice for this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany

Regulation after the 1919 Treaty of VersaillesEdit
From 1918 to 1920, with the defeat of Germany in World War I, the nation was forced to accept a series of devastating reparationsafter signing the Treaty of Versailles. The treaty had stipulations to disarm the government. The German government adopted a series of laws against private arms ownership to avoid disarming the German military. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles explicitly targeted the state: "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."^[4]
In 1919 the German government passed theRegulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately."^[5] Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.
On August 7, 1920, rising fears whether or not Germany could have rebellions prompted the government to enact a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.
In 1928, after a near decade of hyperinflation destroyed the structural fabric of society, a rapidly expanding three-way political divide between the conservatives, National Socialists, and Communists prompted the rapidly declining conservative majority to enact the Law on Firearms and Ammunition.This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "... persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." This law revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.
Especially car associations lobbied for an easy gun permit for car owners^[6] which was granted by the government for drivers traveling often in the countryside.^[7]
Gun regulation of the Third ReichEdit
See also: Disarmament of the German Jєωs

nαzι law to disarm Jєωs
The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.^[8]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.^[9]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.^[9]
Less classes of user were exempt from the requirement to hold an acquisition permit; holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.^[8]
Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jєωs; Jєωs could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.^[8]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records about purchasers of guns, with serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.
The 1938 Regulations Against Jєωs' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,^[10]^[11]effectively deprived all Jєωs living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition.^[12] Before that, some police forces used the pre-existing "trustworthiness" clause to disarm Jєωs on the basis that "the Jєωιѕн population 'cannot be regarded as trustworthy'".^[8]

Student of Qi · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:17:16 PM »

"Do we need stricter gun controle?"

Yes!!! Down here we tend to think if you can hold it proper and hit yer target, ye got pretty good gun controle.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2018, 09:56:47 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 05:46:30 PM

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We must add the roll of the lapdog liberal mass media.
In the 1950's there was Project Mockingbird in which the CIA deliberately feed false information to the TV networks
to influence the way Americans were thinking and turn public opinion in supporting leftist causes. A former CIA
Director was quoted when the American People believe in lies, I know that we won the battle.
What the CIA was doing was illegal. Congress and sequence Administrations did nothing about
There was a law past by congress that forbidding propaganda and fake news from government agencies. This law
was repealed during the Obama Administration.
The heart of the Deep State is the media and they are highly paid for their false news. And propaganda is
something that is repeated over and over again until the average person use in getting their news from the mass
media and believes it because all the stations are repeating the same thing and has to be true.
This worked in the early 1970's after Richard Nixon won one of the biggest landslides in history only resigning
from office in less than a year.
The media cannot afford the truth and complicit in the crimes of the Deep State because they lied and covered
up of the truth.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2018, 07:36:22 PM »

Guns don't kill, people do.

And I'll bet a million dollars he was on psych meds. Every single mass shooting that we have had in the US, including all school shootings, have been done by people on psych meds. Every. Single. One.

I'd vote to ban psych meds.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** February 18, 2018, 09:00:07 PM »

Ban violent video games, violent "music", Ban Hollywood movies and tv shows that show violence, murder and criminal activities.

Restore all things in Jesus Christ!

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:03:00 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on February 16, 2018, 06:12:38 AM

do we need stricter gun control....after the Florida shooting, people have been saying that this is the way we can make America safer. what do you think?

There shouldn't even be a dialogue about your God-given rights to be armed for whatever threat might come your way. To have a dialogue is to give validation to the false notion that ʝʊdɛօ-masons & communists in government know the best measure of self-defense for a person than the person, and the lie that gun control keeps people safer.

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Anonymous Coward says:
First thing Hitler did was take away the guns.

Reductio ad Hitlerum fallacy

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Anonymous Cowards said:
"I thought that was the second thing he did. I thought the first thing he did was preach the need to take away the guns."

I stand corrected.
He (Hilter) did not take the guns forcefully but convinced people to hand them in.

Both of you are wrong. Hitler actually RELAXED gun laws for German citizens, while he imposed strict gun control on Jєωs, for they weren't even real German citizens, and they were using subterfuge to destroy German society, culture and economics. Many Jєωs were communists.

Kimchi Ninja · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:31:23 PM »

Gun control is using both hands. ;D

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