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Author Topic: Do any of you day trade for your living?  (Read 15097 times)

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Re: Do any of you day trade for your living?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2022, 12:58:32 PM »
As Warren Buffett said, 'whether it's socks or stocks, I like mine 50% off.'

I do not day trade but I have been swing trading for the last five years (holding longer than 1 day and usually a few weeks).  Like any profession, there is a lot to know and there's a million ways to approach the market - penny stocks, shorting, news-driven, earnings, options, selling options, etc.  To save yourself a lot of time, money, and frustration, this is what I'd say to anyone wanting to do it, whether day trading, swing trading or position trading (investing for months on end):

1) Study a lot of charts - the good news is that the market is fractal so a 15minute time frame might work the same as a Daily or Monthly chart will.

2) The two most used indicators seem to be RSI 14 and MACD w/ Histogram so if that's what everyone else is generally using, maybe your entries should be based on that too.

3) Study the next higher time frame - I swing so I start with considering the Monthly and Weekly charts.

Free Bonus Tip - Bullish ('buy low and sell high') will usually begin with the price crossing above the 20 simple moving average and the RSI 14 will be above 40.

P.S. Here is an example of a recent swing trade.  I entered in the $3 range with $4 Call options expiring in September.  I sold those Call options slowly in the $6.50 - $8 range and made 400% - 600% gains.  No, it isn't always like that but if you bail quickly then you'll survive and maybe even thrive.


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Re: Do any of you day trade for your living?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2022, 01:47:50 PM »
There's only one way to day trade IMHO.  This guy offers a course, for a couple hundred dollars, but he's the best in the biz.  Smarmy, anti-gov and conservative, he shows how patterns built on years of behaviors indicate when to get in and out.  He NEVER advocates leaving your money in, but how to read the charts to safely get in and out, on the hour, or on the day.  He even tells you where he went in and why, and where and when he got out, and you can follow his moves and warnings, to see he's making bank. The morality of investing is another story of course, but if you're going to do it, you should watch these videos.  

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskjyXV2-0E


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Re: Do any of you day trade for your living?
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2022, 02:02:16 PM »

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Re: Do any of you day trade for your living?
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2022, 05:01:14 PM »
I think day-trading is not a good way to make money, even for experts in the market. You are statistically more likely to make money with index funds than trading stock, and that applies even to experts. Here's why, though I highly recommend this guy's whole series on the stock market.

The most popular index fund in the world is Vanguard's VTSAX, an index fund of the entire American stock market, which has beat almost every other fund over the long term. It is also the largest mutual fund in existence, in terms of the amount of money invested.

About 10-15 years ago Warren Buffet made a bet with the head of a high-end hedge fund that the fund manager couldn't beat the market over a 10-year period. It was a million-dollar bet; Buffet bought an S&P 500 index fund, and the hedge fund manager chose five mutual funds he thought would win. The head of a high-end hedge fund is a highly paid, highly competent stock investor getting paid a vast salary to pick winning stocks. It should have been easy for him to beat the market, right?

Well, he lost miserably. Buffet's index fund returned 125.8% during that decade, while the fund manager's funds only made 36%.

If you can find me one fund that has beaten the VTSAX over a 10-year period, I'd love to see it. And I'm fairly certain no fund has beaten it over a 20-year period.

So if even the head of high-end hedge fund (who probably had an MBA or even a PhD from some Ivy League university and was in the Mensa Club) can't even beat the market, then it's probably not a good idea to think you can do it.

Re: Do any of you day trade for your living?
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2022, 06:39:41 PM »
No, I like making money and not losing it.