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Divorce and Remarriage.
« on: August 03, 2021, 03:04:07 PM »
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  • I just wanted to talk about something anonymously so the parties it is about don't find out. I don't know if they read Cathinfo. I just learned something that shocked me. My sedevacantist friend has another sedevacantist friend who goes to Mass with one of the main sede groups. I just learned that a few years ago his wife left him. And he remarried. The first marriage was in a traditional Catholic Church. And he still goes to the sede Mass and receives the sacraments. My sedevacantist friend does not know if they got a Novus Ordo annulment and when he asks about it the friend tells him curiosity is a sin. But I think if his priest knew him and his wife would both be refused the sacraments. This man also took the dead baby vaxx because he was paranoid about covid. I was shocked to find out a sede was divorced and remarried just like a liberal Amoris Laetitia reading Novus Ordite. I wonder if he really believes now.  


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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2021, 03:12:18 PM »
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  • It is not just sedes. I was told that a woman who used to be a big SSPX supporter left her husband and re-married a  and requested an annulment from the SSPX and they refused. So she left and went to the indult. And one of my friends told me a lady who used to go to our chapel who was divorced had two different affairs with two different men who were also divorced, while all continuing to receive the sacraments. Are we all just a bunch of hypocrites?


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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2021, 03:13:17 PM »
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  •  And one of my friends told me a lady who used to go to our chapel who was divorced had two different affairs with two different men who were also divorced, while all continuing to receive the sacraments. Are we all just a bunch of hypocrites?
    That woman and one of the men are resistance now.

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2021, 03:14:27 PM »
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  • I'd suggest bringing this to the attention of the priest where this possibly-divorced-and-remarried person goes to Mass. This is something the priest needs to know, and it seems there is scandal from this situation since you are getting the impression this sedevacantist chapel allows divorce and remarriage. I'm sure the priest will look into it and resolve the question one way or the other.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2021, 03:16:11 PM »
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  •  This is something the priest needs to know, and it seems there is scandal from this situation since you are getting the impression this sedevacantist chapel allows divorce and remarriage. 
    I do not think the priest knows.  


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    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2021, 03:18:14 PM »
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  • It just made me upset hearing that people who are supposed to be good being bad. I want us trads to be better.  

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #6 on: August 03, 2021, 03:26:04 PM »
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  • I do not think the priest knows.  
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    Yes, this is something he needs to know. I strongly urge you to tell him, since he would want to know, and needs to deal with this situation.

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #7 on: August 03, 2021, 03:27:59 PM »
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  • I just wanted to talk about something αnσnymσusly so the parties it is about don't find out. I don't know if they read Cathinfo. I just learned something that shocked me. My sedevacantist friend has another sedevacantist friend who goes to Mass with one of the main sede groups. I just learned that a few years ago his wife left him. And he remarried. The first marriage was in a traditional Catholic Church. And he still goes to the sede Mass and receives the sacraments. My sedevacantist friend does not know if they got a Novus Ordo annulment and when he asks about it the friend tells him curiosity is a sin. But I think if his priest knew him and his wife would both be refused the sacraments. This man also took the dead baby vaxx because he was paranoid about covid. I was shocked to find out a sede was divorced and remarried just like a liberal Amoris Laetitia reading Novus Ordite. I wonder if he really believes now.  
    Your concern is that if they die all the sudden or if they continue to live the lie till death, they will end in Hell. Also that in can cause scandal or cause others to do the same thing. 
    I do not think the priests at my SSPX concern themselves with these annulments, maybe because it is so common today, even in SSPX chapels. It is like they think they've accomplished a miracle by just getting them to go to mass.


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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #8 on: August 03, 2021, 03:34:05 PM »
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  • It is not just sedes. I was told that a woman who used to be a big SSPX supporter left her husband and re-married a  and requested an annulment from the SSPX and they refused. So she left and went to the indult. And one of my friends told me a lady who used to go to our chapel who was divorced had two different affairs with two different men who were also divorced, while all continuing to receive the sacraments. Are we all just a bunch of hypocrites?
    No, we’re all not a bunch of hypocrites, but the individuals engaging in this hanky-panky certainly fit the bill!

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    « Reply #9 on: August 03, 2021, 03:40:47 PM »
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  • I'd suggest bringing this to the attention of the priest where this possibly-divorced-and-remarried person goes to Mass. This is something the priest needs to know, and it seems there is scandal from this situation since you are getting the impression this sedevacantist chapel allows divorce and remarriage. I'm sure the priest will look into it and resolve the question one way or the other.

    Agreed.  Marital state is a public thing and this isn't detraction in any way to bring this to the priest's attention.  That is why the Church publicly announces the Marriage bans before a wedding, and the same thing applies if you find out something later as well.

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #10 on: August 03, 2021, 04:16:05 PM »
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  • My sedevacantist friend does not know if they got a Novus Ordo annulment and when he asks about it the friend tells him curiosity is a sin. 
    Red flag!  Marriage is a public act and nothing wrong with asking about the status of his marriage.  Turning on the friend saying he is the ONE being sinful makes me think this person knows what he is doing is wrong and but won't admit it.  What is he hiding by not answering?  If there is nothing to hide, he would give a simple, truthful answer to his friend.

    Unfortunately today, there are a lot of people in invalid marriages or permanent states of adultery.  Yes, even some Trads.

    I think you have a moral obligation to notify the priest and let him deal with the couple.
    Surge, Domine, et dissipentur inimici, et eos qui oderunt te, a facie tua!  
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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #11 on: August 03, 2021, 04:17:25 PM »
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  • Pius the V has signs on entering the Chapel (s)  informing that  if anyone was annulled in the NO after 1968 that they must speak to the priest before receiving the sacraments. Hopefully people follow this instruction.

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #12 on: August 03, 2021, 04:18:09 PM »
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  • that is me above. Forgot to check the box

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    Re: Divorce and Remarriage.
    « Reply #13 on: August 03, 2021, 04:24:36 PM »
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  • My sedevacantist friend does not know if they got a Novus Ordo annulment and when he asks about it the friend tells him curiosity is a sin.
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    Yes, as Josefa said, this evasive answer that this person gives indicates that he is in bad faith and does not have a good explanation for the circuмstances. You need to tell this whole story to this guy's priest ASAP.