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« on: December 18, 2013, 08:44:58 PM »
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    • What do you think is the most serious internal source of division among traditional Catholics?  
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    « Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 08:48:24 PM »
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    What do you think is the most serious internal source of division among traditional Catholics?  


    Compromise.
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    Divisions among Trads
    « Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 09:37:46 PM »
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    • No pope. This is our chastisement.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 09:47:36 PM »
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    • "Recognize and Resist" or Sedevacantism.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 10:02:17 PM »
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    What do you think is the most serious internal source of division among traditional Catholics?  


    Compromise.


    This.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 10:40:43 PM »
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    • If by traditional Catholic we mean those Catholics who refuse to attend the NO and do not recognize VII as a Catholic council (which should be the criteria) then it's probably the pope issue.

    After that...

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    « Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 10:47:26 PM »
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    • Human nature.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 12:28:48 AM »
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    • A serious issue - although not the most serious - is the divide and rule attitude adopted by certain Traditional Catholic priests, which keeps the faithful divided but allows them to do as they please.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 10:53:19 AM »
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    • Divisions?  

    What is so bad about that?  A division is a good chance for someone to define their position and to stand fast in the Catholic Faith.  
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    « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 11:33:55 AM »
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    What do you think is the most serious internal source of division among traditional Catholics?  


    I believe it is the SV issue followed by the Feeneyite issue.  Pride and egoism come into play in regards to both and other things IMO.  This is regarding the clergy and the laity.

    It is very sad.

    Supposedly the only people in a state of sanctifying grace appear to be the least charitable.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2013, 12:01:17 PM »
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    What do you think is the most serious internal source of division among traditional Catholics?  


    The absence of supernatural charity.
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    « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 02:54:37 PM »
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    Divisions?  

    What is so bad about that?  A division is a good chance for someone to define their position and to stand fast in the Catholic Faith.  


    My mother an old expert at politics always says a Government is only as good as the opposition it has.  So a poor opposition will allow the gov to rule badly and get away with murder.  So your question about divisions could be on the mark...

    The resistance could be the driving force to get sSPX back on track.  I do not buy into the sspx being dead.  Not until God calls it dead.

    wonder does the same theory apply to a husband and wife  :laugh1:
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    « Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 03:17:29 PM »
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    Pride and egoism come into play in regards to both and other things IMO.  This is regarding the clergy and the laity.

    Supposedly the only people in a state of sanctifying grace appear to be the least charitable.


    Some people here who are ardent anti-sedevacantists or who are liberals seem to define charity as "being nice and agreeing with me," while charity actually means truly willing your neighbor's good.  

    I think the biggest source of division with traditional Catholic circles is cultural liberalism.  That's what's tearing apart the SSPX and what causes most of the conflicts on this forum, besides the Feeneyites, but in the end not very many people follow them or will follow them.  

    The biggest divisions are between those who are consciously opposed to liberalism and those who, objectively speaking, think and act like liberals.
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    « Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 03:32:07 PM »
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    •  :dancing-banana:The cause is the wound of Original Sin if you refer to sinful division, "factions."
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    « Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 03:41:54 PM »
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    • Factions and division amongst all Catholics as a whole, whether orthodox or those who went along with the Conciliar apostasy, would cease if only we had a Pope -- and a good one, at that.
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