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Re: Disciplining wife
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2020, 06:26:42 AM »
You mean that the cops will spank the husband when he comes home with a speeding ticket?
No they should though.
Corporal punishment in civil society is a good thing.

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Re: Disciplining wife
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2020, 06:27:11 AM »
Yup.  I think Croix should concern himself more with disciplining himself...as in not coming back here after every one of his incarnations is banned.
Do you understand what an ad hominem is?


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Re: Disciplining wife
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2020, 07:50:36 AM »
If you are going to use corporal punishment on your wife ( which I am not totally against) make sure that first she is totally a Catholic wife in the traditional sense. You can't send your wife out to work for 40-50 hrs a week, make superfluous demands on her in a modern sense and then expect her to tolerate a spanking. The two don't mix at all. Gain her respect in the household by protecting and providing for the family and the  respectful, subservient role of the traditional wife will naturally follow. I don't like corporal punishment , it can easily be abused and make a husband a tyrant,  but maybe in certain circuмstances as a last resort, but I doubt it should ever come to that.

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Re: Disciplining wife
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2020, 09:10:21 AM »
This discussion is a moot point. The fact is that, in current year, women hold all the cards. The State would side with the woman in about 100 out of 100 cases. A man can't get physical with his wife without all women, and nearly all men, turning against him. It's a hopeless cause, so the morality and legality of such discipline is really beside the point. 

Re: Disciplining wife
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2020, 09:23:25 AM »
Blah, blah, blah.
We are Catholics. Not of the world.
In many countries it is not acceptable to spank our kids. So should we apply the same logic here??
Our wives are not our children.

Can anyone provide a historical precedent, magisterial teaching, or any other docuмentation, illustrating the times and places where it was deemed acceptable for Catholic husbands to spank or paddle their wives?  I'm not concerned with what Protestants or Mohammedans did.  I'm concerned with what faithful, traditional Catholics did.   Does it appear anywhere in the Bible?  Are there any catechisms that recommend it?  And have there been any Catholic societies that were so conformed to this idea, that my hypothetical Sally-and-Maggie conversation could actually have taken place?  If Maggie had been Sally's mother?

The only thing I can think of is when (I believe it was) John Paul II canonized some third-world saint (or some such), and said something to the effect of "he only beat his wife when she truly deserved it".  Would anyone here wish to take that as sound spiritual guidance?

I think a much more sound, reasonable thing to do, if a man is so unfortunate to have a wife who is giving him massive problems, would be to take her before a priest, explain what she is doing, let her have her say as well, and have it explained to her, in no uncertain terms, why her behavior is unacceptable.  The worst thing a wife can do, is of course, to cheat on her husband.  There are some wives whose husbands can't trust them out of their sight!  (And, in all fairness, it cuts both ways.)