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Author Topic: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left  (Read 11109 times)

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Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2022, 09:54:54 AM »
I listened to about 20 minutes or so of that kid's testimony about the Dimonds, in an effort to understand other views of them by people involved with them; and shut it off in disgust when he started talking about Jay Dyer and defending him against the Dimonds.

I went down the Dyer rabbit hole a couple years ago when I was clouded by the NO, and came out of it thanks to the MHFM videos utterly refuting him and Eastern "Orthodoxy". I can understand how this guy may have been ensnared by him, and Portrello, who I have no familiarity with. Jay isn't stupid, his content on globalism is good, but his theology is awful and shows how he has no clear foundation of belief.

But I digress, thank you for summarizing the contentions behind that anti-MHFM site. I honestly think this recent debate may help them by having some more visibility and being able to actually see Bro. Peter humanized him quite a bit more.
Dyer is so obviously a fake. He is an occultist, through and through, and he is supremely arrogant. He is the EO version of Michael Lofton, both being entitled grifters.

Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2022, 09:58:43 AM »
Hello, I am new here, and this is my first posting.

I have heard in my research into MHFM as actual people, that they do actually live as monks should. Did you "try them out" at one point? What were they like? Did they basically just live "normally?" I support them; I actually bought some of their materials to spread around (propaganda but not the best connotations, that word). I asked for a little extra if they could, and they sent me a chunk of the hundreds of old DVDs they had.

On another note, do people even really use DVDs anymore?
Can't edit. Meant to say that it is said that they *don't* live as monks do.


Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2022, 10:26:57 AM »
Can't edit. Meant to say that it is said that they *don't* live as monks do.
From the evidence I've seen, they do not. They built a full size basketball court, yet their chapel is basically a side closet. :facepalm:

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Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2022, 11:07:36 AM »
From the evidence I've seen, they do not. They built a full size basketball court, yet their chapel is basically a side closet. :facepalm:

Well, let's be fair.  Benedictine Monastic practice tends to have monks spending most of their non-labor time in their cells (aka the bedrooms), and they do not have the Blessed Sacrament there.  So advantage they might have from a "chapel" is to get together to say the Office in common during the designated hours.  Sure, if they had the Blessed Sacrament, certainly they would want to do better for a chapel, as presumably it would also need a sanctuary, an altar, etc.  But without the Blessed Sacrament, it's just a place to sit together to say the office.

Let's also consider the source of this diagram in terms of whether there's exaggeration here, as based on that it barely looks like one person could fit in there at at time.

Guy who put this out there has a massive ax to grind against the Brothers, so it's to be taken with a grain of salt.

And I find nothing wrong with a basketball court.

Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2022, 12:46:53 PM »
From the evidence I've seen, they do not. They built a full size basketball court, yet their chapel is basically a side closet. :facepalm:

I've seen this supposed layout. 1, it cannot be verified, 2 even if it is the correct layout, doesn't say anything about how the spaces are actually used. That image means pretty much nothing.