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Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
« on: May 11, 2017, 07:00:22 AM »
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    • I had my doubts about the Dimonds but recently I heard their video against "True Pope or False Pope" that claims that 
    1. since the decision of their lawsuit coincided with the traditional feast of St. Benedict that was a sign from God that they are indeed Benedictines 
    2. Sr. Lucy said that the devil was in mood for "final battle"
    3. St. Benedict said that his order will exist till the end of the world and will render great service to the church in the "final battle". 

    What they are practically saying is that they are practically infallible in their understanding of the faith, since they are Benedictines and this is the end times and Benedictines are meant to do great service in the end times, and wouldn't make sense for people destined to such tasks to be in the wrong side of theological disputes. 

    I don't know what to think about this. 

    Does anyone have a refutation to this claim? 

    Also they made another video recently that claims that on September of this year the constellations of the sky will represent the BVM clothed with the sun with 12 stars and Jesus in her womb (represented by Jupiter which is called the king of the gods in Roman mythology, therefore representing Jesus the King), and interpreted this to be a clear sign that we are near the end which got me a bit scared. 

    Does anyone have any refutation for this? 

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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 07:07:16 AM »
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    • Beware of false / self-proclaimed prophets.

    One would think that the Dimonds would get along well with Richard Ibranyi. 
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 08:00:46 AM »
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    • Interesting site has what appears to be historical knowledge of the Dimonds:
    http://www.23rdstreet.com/
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 08:41:29 AM »
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    • To suggest that either of these claims even needs to be "refuted" gives them too much credence.

    If I claimed to be the reincarnation of Genghis Khan, and therefore am the rightful ruler of the whole of the old Mongol Empire, would you try and "refute" me, or would you just ignore me as some lunatic?  The Diamonds' claims are just as outlandish.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 09:15:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 11, 2017, 08:41:29 AM
    To suggest that either of these claims even needs to be "refuted" gives them too much credence.

    If I claimed to be the reincarnation of Genghis Khan, and therefore am the rightful ruler of the whole of the old Mongol Empire, would you try and "refute" me, or would you just ignore me as some lunatic?  The Diamonds' claims are just as outlandish.
    How would you explain that the date of court judgment coincided with the feast of St. Benedict.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 10:01:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 11, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
    How would you explain that the date of court judgment coincided with the feast of St. Benedict.
    It's a coincidence that doesn't need explaining.  What does one thing have to do with the other?  March 21 is also International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, does that mean the Diamonds have some special connection with anti-racism?
    The real question is, how do you explain that my birthday is the say as Genghis Khan's day of death?
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 10:58:53 AM »
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    • Vatican II concluded on December 8th, the Feast of Our Lady's Immaculate Conception.
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    Surely a sign that she approves.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 11:15:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mithrandylan on May 11, 2017, 10:58:53 AM
    Vatican II concluded on December 8th, the Feast of Our Lady's Immaculate Conception.
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    Surely a sign that she approves.
    Not applicable, for that day was picked by the Vatican II church and Vatican II was not about the Immaculate Conception. 
    The Dimonds trial was about St. Benedict and the Dimonds did not pick the date
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 11:21:21 AM »
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    • My wife and I were in disagreement as to the name to give our next child, she was 6 months away from giving birth. I said we'll just let God sort it out. The names we each chose were not common like Mary Joseph, Anthony and such. The baby was born on the feast name of the name my wife had chosen. End of story.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 11:27:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 11, 2017, 10:42:32 AM
    This is a ridiculous response.  (But considering that you don't even know how to spell the Dimonds' name, it's not a surprise that you don't speak with accuracy on the matter.) The entire lawsuit the Dimonds won was about whether it's fraudulent for MHFM and the Dimonds to present themselves as Benedictines or members of the Order of St. Benedict.  So, the lawsuit was all about Benedictine matters.  It was also an extremely prominent lawsuit, reported all over the traditional movement.  The final judgment, giving the huge victory to MHFM and the Dimonds on the Benedictine issue, happened on the one day of the year, March 21, on which the Church honors St. Benedict.  It's not just a coincidence.
    One could think of it this way: on the one day of the year on which the Church particularly rejoices with, honors, and celebrates St. Benedict, MHFM and the Dimonds were celebrating and rejoicing as well with a major victory in a case about whether they can present themselves as Benedictines.   MHFM also has the largest sedevacantist outreach in the world by far, the best apologetics material, etc.  
    To the original poster: I would recommend that you think for yourself and look at the truth and the facts presented MHFM's material, rather than asking deceived men to talk you out of the truth.
    I agree 100%. The people that despise and detract against the Dimonds are just sheep following the crowd, the vast majority are scared to say anything good about them for fear of ridicule from the crowd. Nothing good comes from following the crowd. What I admire most about the Dimonds is that they are no respecters of men, they do not do what they do for money or respect, they do it for truth's sake only. 
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 11:37:05 AM »
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    • Can anyone name any non-sedevacantes living trad figures that have not sold out to the Vatican II church for respect or/and money?

    The SSPX, Fraternity of St. Peter, The Remnant, Catholic Family News, Fr. Gruner, Michel Davies...... they all sold out for the respectability of the world.

    I can only name Atila Guimaraes and the contributors to Traditioninaction as persons that have not yet sold out.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 11:44:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 11, 2017, 11:15:35 AM
    Not applicable, for that day was picked by the Vatican II church and Vatican II was not about the Immaculate Conception.
    The Dimonds trial was about St. Benedict and the Dimonds did not pick the date
    Yeah, and St. Benedict's feast was selected by a judicial body that executes infants and legally recognizes sodomy as analogous to the sacrament of marriage. 
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    Lumen Gentium has quite a bit to say about the Blessed Virgin.
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    Look, if one wants to find meaning in the dates, the better and more coherent meaning is the continued insult to religion perpetrated by the Vatican II Church, today's statesmen, and MHFM. 
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 11:50:09 AM »
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    • "A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh a sign, and it shall not be given them"
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    "By their fruits you shall know them."
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    Fruits are doctrines.  Stop the faux-astrology and divination, and look at a man's doctrine.  That'll tell you what you need to know about the veracity of someone's claims.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #13 on: May 11, 2017, 11:59:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on May 11, 2017, 11:27:19 AM
    I agree 100%. The people that despise and detract against the Dimonds are just sheep following the crowd, the vast majority are scared to say anything good about them for fear of ridicule from the crowd. Nothing good comes from following the crowd. What I admire most about the Dimonds is that they are no respecters of men, they do not do what they do for money or respect, they do it for truth's sake only.


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    The polemic surrounding the Most Holy Family Monastery (MHFM) is actually a narrative of 2 distinct and separate secular not-for-profit organizations that were legally established under “State Law” as “religious organizations”. Yet, neither of the 2 Monasteries received the required ecclesiastic Canonical Provision to legitimately establish themselves as a Catholic religious order.
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    Re: Dimond claim that they fulfill the Benedictine prophecy of end times
    « Reply #14 on: May 11, 2017, 12:28:29 PM »
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    • No real defenders of truth have "the required ecclesiastic Canonical Provision to legitimately establish themselves as a Catholic religious order". If that is what you are looking for rather than truth, go with the Vatican II church, they have all the legals.
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