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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2013, 07:07:47 PM »
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  • Okay Don Quixote, protector of chapel hens.

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    « Reply #61 on: July 29, 2013, 07:09:43 PM »
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  • The Knights Code of Chivalry and the vows of Knighthood

    The Knights Code of Chivalry described in the Song of Roland and an excellent representation of the Knights Codes of Chivalry are as follows:

    To fear God and maintain His Church

    To serve the liege lord in valour and faith

    To protect the weak and defenceless

    To give succour to widows and orphans

    To refrain from the wanton giving of offence

    To live by honour and for glory

    To despise pecuniary reward

    To fight for the welfare of all

    To obey those placed in authority

    To guard the honour of fellow knights

    To eschew unfairness, meanness and deceit

    To keep faith

    At all times to speak the truth

    To persevere to the end in any enterprise begun

    To respect the honour of women

    Never to refuse a challenge from an equal

    Never to turn the back upon a foe


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    « Reply #62 on: July 29, 2013, 07:12:37 PM »
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  • "I was once told that the father and husband's authority is for the sake of his office. the office of father or husband -- which is for the sake of the family, for God's sake, not for his own person's sake?

    It may be that a lot of men don't understand this and see it as a means of self-indulgence instead".

    I agree with this. I think there are some men out there that abuse their authority over submissive wives. Instead of leading the family towards a true Christian home, they just indulge in selfish pleasures and disrespect their women, commit all kind of sins and expect their wives to be silent.

    Of course, I am talking about non-Catholics and Catholics in name only. A true Catholic gentleman would understand his real position as lead of the home and not abuse his authority.

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    « Reply #63 on: July 29, 2013, 07:16:01 PM »
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  • Someone thumbs down the Code of Catholic Knights.  Amazing!  

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    « Reply #64 on: July 29, 2013, 07:17:51 PM »
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    Someone thumbs down the Code of Catholic Knights.  Amazing!  


    A resentful, self hating, lonely youth, no doubt. Probably not enjoying any favor from any lady.


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    « Reply #65 on: July 29, 2013, 07:18:29 PM »
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  • I've never heard of the Code of Catholic Knights. From where/when does it originate?

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    « Reply #66 on: July 29, 2013, 07:19:30 PM »
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    Someone thumbs down the Code of Catholic Knights.  Amazing!  


    I think he is downthumbing its applicability to this discussion.

    Our religion isn't based on the Song of Roland btw.

    We need more men willing to punish women, rather than protect them while they do wrong.

     

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    « Reply #67 on: July 29, 2013, 07:23:11 PM »
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    I've never heard of the Code of Catholic Knights. From where/when does it originate?


    http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/knights-code-of-chivalry.htm


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    « Reply #68 on: July 29, 2013, 07:29:03 PM »
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    Someone thumbs down the Code of Catholic Knights.  Amazing!  


    I think he is downthumbing its applicability to this discussion.

    Our religion isn't based on the Song of Roland btw.

    We need more men willing to punish women, rather than protect them while they do wrong.

     


    Catholic ladies must be honored and protected from those seeking to "punish" them.  It is the duty of any Catholic gentleman do protect the ladies.

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    « Reply #69 on: July 29, 2013, 07:30:57 PM »
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    [22] Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: [23] Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. [24] Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. [25] Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it.           Ephesians 5:22-25

    It's two-fold.  
     


    But it's not contingent.

    It's not:

    I'll obey my husband when he loves me as Christ loves the Church.

    That's something he'll never live up to.

    Women read that as an excuse not to obey their husbands.  It's nothing of the kind.


    Not what I mean:

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    "I was once told that the father and husband's authority is for the sake of his office. the office of father or husband -- which is for the sake of the family, for God's sake, not for his own person's sake?

     It may be that a lot of men don't understand this and see it as a means of self-indulgence instead".

     I agree with this. I think there are some men out there that abuse their authority over submissive wives. Instead of leading the family towards a true Christian home, they just indulge in selfish pleasures and disrespect their women, commit all kind of sins and expect their wives to be silent.

     Of course, I am talking about non-Catholics and Catholics in name only. A true Catholic gentleman would understand his real position as lead of the home and not abuse his authority.

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    « Reply #70 on: July 29, 2013, 07:33:27 PM »
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    The Knights Code of Chivalry and the vows of Knighthood

    The Knights Code of Chivalry described in the Song of Roland and an excellent representation of the Knights Codes of Chivalry are as follows:

    To fear God and maintain His Church

    To serve the liege lord in valour and faith

    To protect the weak and defenceless

    To give succour to widows and orphans

    To refrain from the wanton giving of offence

    To live by honour and for glory

    To despise pecuniary reward

    To fight for the welfare of all

    To obey those placed in authority

    To guard the honour of fellow knights

    To eschew unfairness, meanness and deceit

    To keep faith

    At all times to speak the truth

    To persevere to the end in any enterprise begun

    To respect the honour of women

    Never to refuse a challenge from an equal

    Never to turn the back upon a foe


     :applause:


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    « Reply #71 on: July 29, 2013, 07:39:06 PM »
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    Catholic ladies must be honored and protected from those seeking to "punish" them.  It is the duty of any Catholic gentleman do protect the ladies.


    In other words, Catholic "ladies" are immune from all responsiblity for their actions because some meddlesome fellow is going to interfere in your private life.

    And if you resent gossipy women causing trouble in your marriage, then you mustn't call them on it.  

    Hmmmm.  

    We live in a feminist society, trad women are embracing feminism, and these Don Quixotes want to kill "monsters" of their own imagination.

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    « Reply #72 on: July 29, 2013, 07:40:54 PM »
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  • I think these days husbands are more sinned against by their wives than they sin themselves.

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    « Reply #73 on: July 29, 2013, 07:41:45 PM »
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    « Reply #74 on: July 29, 2013, 07:42:35 PM »
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    Catholic ladies must be honored and protected from those seeking to "punish" them.  It is the duty of any Catholic gentleman do protect the ladies.


    In other words, Catholic "ladies" are immune from all responsiblity for their actions because some meddlesome fellow is going to interfere in your private life.

    And if you resent gossipy women causing trouble in your marriage, then you mustn't call them on it.  

    Hmmmm.  

    We live in a feminist society, trad women are embracing feminism, and these Don Quixotes want to kill "monsters" of their own imagination.


    A Catholic lady is the opposite of a feminist.  Perhaps you have never met one, I know hundreds of good Catholic ladies, worthy of honor and respect.