Author Topic: Difficulty in Obeying Husband (Read 13132 times)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:45:43 PM »

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I also don't think that my advice is manipulative even if it sounded that way. This is just how men are. It is reality. Men do not respond to the same way of women and women are foolish if they pretend to deal with men with the same logic that they would with other women. We understand and appreciate an honest conversation. Men in their nature, become competitive every time they feel threatened or we try to blame them. Men don't deal with guilt like women do.

Chances are that if you try to point out to your husband his past mistakes in hope for him to change his mind and not make the same mistakes, he will become instantaneously defensive and stubborn.

I insist, is better to use INDIRECT ways. This is ancient female wisdom in dealing with men.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. But the word "trick" and the phrase "make him think" and "he is doing what you want", all seem manipulative.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:46:15 PM »

Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Feminism promotes ‘get in his face’ as the way to protect a woman’s interests. This nullifies her natural strengths for shaping a man’s behavior

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:48:50 PM »

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tease it into submission

Manipulation.

Instead of an ignorant feminist, I'd call that a crafty feminist.

Graham · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:52:48 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

What if the husband isn't a Catholic?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:56:04 PM »

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This is yet more evidence that we need a women's subforum with access granted solely by Mrs. Moderator, MaterDominici.

Only those who are female and have registered as such should be allowed to contribute to conversations of such a sensitive nature unless one of the contributors is a priest.

I agree. It would be better having a female - only board with no access to men, so we can discuss these type of issues.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:57:00 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

What if the husband isn't a Catholic?

If the marriage is valid, and he isn't telling you to sin, you are still subject to him.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2013, 03:58:58 PM »

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This is yet more evidence that we need a women's subforum with access granted solely by Mrs. Moderator, MaterDominici.

Only those who are female and have registered as such should be allowed to contribute to conversations of such a sensitive nature unless one of the contributors is a priest.

I agree. It would be better having a female - only board with no access to men, so we can discuss these type of issues.

Why? Because they will give you permission to disobey your husband?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

What if the husband isn't a Catholic?

Talk to a priest. It can be quite delicate. Unfortunately many good women who want to be good wives are put in very difficult positions sometimes. This is not the place to ask for advice.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:00:19 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

What if the husband isn't a Catholic?

If the marriage is valid, and he isn't telling you to sin, you are still subject to him.

And if he's telling you to sin?

We don't know exactly what is the difficulty the OP is having obeying her husband. What if it is of evil matter?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #25 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:09:02 PM »

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This is yet more evidence that we need a women's subforum with access granted solely by Mrs. Moderator, MaterDominici.

Only those who are female and have registered as such should be allowed to contribute to conversations of such a sensitive nature unless one of the contributors is a priest.

I agree. It would be better having a female - only board with no access to men, so we can discuss these type of issues.

Why? Because they will give you permission to disobey your husband?

No. Because there are issues that are better understood and discussed among women - only. Stop feeling threatened. Now you are being defensive!

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #26 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:15:51 PM »

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No. Because there are issues that are better understood and discussed among women - only. Stop feeling threatened. Now you are being defensive!

If an issue is a public issue and you don't want men to comment on it it's pretty clear you think only women should be authorities on it.

It's very obvious to me that such women are common in trad circles and they work to undermine the authority of men and police the women to make sure that they are not properly submissive.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #27 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:19:45 PM »

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Ignorant women begrudge male dominance. Smart women go around it, smother it with feminine charm, tease it into submission, and manage the pressures

Catholic women obey their husbands.

Their equally Catholic husbands. It would not be difficult, in fact, quite wonderful to obey a true Catholic gentleman.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #28 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:21:56 PM »

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No. Because there are issues that are better understood and discussed among women - only. Stop feeling threatened. Now you are being defensive!

If an issue is a public issue and you don't want men to comment on it it's pretty clear you think only women should be authorities on it.

It's very obvious to me that such women are common in trad circles and they work to undermine the authority of men and police the women to make sure that they are not properly submissive.

Define properly submissive

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #29 on:** July 29, 2013, 04:22:27 PM »

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Their equally Catholic husbands. It would not be difficult, in fact, quite wonderful to obey a true Catholic gentleman.

A wive's obedience isn't contingent on her husband fitting some model of being a "true Catholic gentleman."

That being said, there are many issues, and not just issues of sin, where obedience is not required.

Any woman who is having trouble with unreasonable demands should discuss the matter with a priest who respects male authority in the home. If it is really a trial of conscience for you I'm sorry.

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