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Demented Elderly Confession
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 02:34:55 PM »
A relative of mine, who is a Jєωιѕн doctor, went into a hospital room to see an elderly woman.  As soon as he walked in, she began to confess her sins.  He was utterly baffled by this, and a little disturbed, until a nurse pointed out that he was wearing a black crew neck sweater and a white turtle neck, and did look a bit like a priest.   He called the Catholic chaplain.  

Just seeing a priest might be enough for this woman to confess.  

Demented Elderly Confession
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 04:29:21 PM »
It is difficult to try to motivate someone with dementia to do something they don't want to do. And some NOers don't believe that the precept that requires we confess at least once / year applies to people who aren't in mortal sin.  

As others have said, the best thing to do is arrange for a priest to visit her, and of course pray and make sacrifices for her.


Demented Elderly Confession
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 05:28:11 PM »
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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?


She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.


Unless you're a prophet and can read souls from a distance, you don't know why this lady hasn't gone to confession for so long, or how she feels about it, or what false ideas she may have - much less her particular judgement.  And if you are a prophet, you should know better than to rejoice in anyone's damnation, or admonish anyone for praying for the dead.

It is true, though, that Our Lord sometimes chastises us particularly harshly in this life by weakening even further our intellect and free will - if we've abused them - as an example for others.  This can indeed be seen as a warning to persevere in the faith.  We must also persevere in hope, and that's where you seem to fail this time.

What does this mean: ' ... I could have been Nife to you ... '?

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 06:51:18 PM »
Ignore Soulguard and get get a Priest.

Marsha

Demented Elderly Confession
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 07:55:53 PM »
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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?


She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.


You are not permitted to judge the state of another person's soul!  He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father Almighty.  He will come again to judge the living and the dead.