Author Topic: Demented Elderly Confession (Read 4161 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** April 25, 2014, 10:38:07 PM »

My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2014, 10:44:30 PM »

The good priest will know what to do. This is not uncommon. What is uncommon, is having good grandchildren like you looking after their grandparents. I pray I have a grandchild like you! Just have the priest come, and he will take care of it.

soulguard · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »

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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

Frances · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2014, 11:01:38 AM »

:dancing-banana:
At least TRY by sending her a priest! Soulguard judges the condition of grandma's soul on the basis of an anonymous post? If she is novus ordo since V2 and now 95, she obviously remembers the Latin Mass. How was she then? Perhaps she never really grasped the Faith, even then? If her faith was "Fiftiesm," then it is no wonder.
Only God knows her true disposition. Since she is still alive, get her a priest!
(Assigning a person's eternal destiny before death is Protestant heresy!)

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2014, 11:31:48 AM »

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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

You probably should go to confession yourself for such an uncharitable and un Catholic comment. The devil has a nasty snare on your soul.

Sigismund · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2014, 02:34:55 PM »

A relative of mine, who is a Jєωιѕн doctor, went into a hospital room to see an elderly woman. As soon as he walked in, she began to confess her sins. He was utterly baffled by this, and a little disturbed, until a nurse pointed out that he was wearing a black crew neck sweater and a white turtle neck, and did look a bit like a priest. He called the Catholic chaplain.

Just seeing a priest might be enough for this woman to confess.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2014, 04:29:21 PM »

It is difficult to try to motivate someone with dementia to do something they don't want to do. And some NOers don't believe that the precept that requires we confess at least once / year applies to people who aren't in mortal sin.

As others have said, the best thing to do is arrange for a priest to visit her, and of course pray and make sacrifices for her.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2014, 05:28:11 PM »

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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

Unless you're a prophet and can read souls from a distance, you don't know why this lady hasn't gone to confession for so long, or how she feels about it, or what false ideas she may have - much less her particular judgement. And if you are a prophet, you should know better than to rejoice in anyone's damnation, or admonish anyone for praying for the dead.

It is true, though, that Our Lord sometimes chastises us particularly harshly in this life by weakening even further our intellect and free will - if we've abused them - as an example for others. This can indeed be seen as a warning to persevere in the faith. We must also persevere in hope, and that's where you seem to fail this time.

What does this mean: ' ... I could have been Nife to you ... '?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2014, 06:51:18 PM »

Ignore Soulguard and get get a Priest.

Marsha

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2014, 07:55:53 PM »

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My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now she is suffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

You are not permitted to judge the state of another person's soul! He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father Almighty. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2014, 08:14:27 PM »

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Quote from: Guest
My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now Catholicuffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

There is always, always, hope for salvation before a person dies! Read on perfect act of contrition. What kind of Catholic write this garbage? You sin against the Holy Ghost.

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2014, 08:24:22 PM »

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Quote from: Guest
My Novus Ordo grandmother has not gone for confession in many many many years and now Catholicuffering from dementia. She is 95 years old and I am afraid she could die any day now.

What is to do in those cases for demented elderly so they can have a confession and be saved?

She has not gone to confession in years because she does not believe in it. There is no other explanation. One time I did not go to confession for over a year because I was locked up, despite wanting to badly. The fact that she has a hatred of confession in its most pure form ( just not caring about it) means that she needs a miraculous conversion to the faith. She has need to know and love the basics of the Catholic faith. All of her false ideas concerning the one true religion must be hated, just as she now hates the true ideas. I dont believe this is likely to happen. She has hated the Catholic faith and given herself over to her sinful passions. She has gone on sinning without remorse. She has no doubt held to many heresies founded on her love of her own sins.
Therefore I say let her be anathema and excommunicate, and let her reap the miserable reward that she has so diligently sought to obtain. Let her burn in hellfire for all eternity, she wants it that way. Once she goes to hell, let not a single prayer be said for her, because not only is it of no help, but it is an invoking of the powers of darkness who alone shall have dominion over her once she is damned. I wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I am not, for this is God's justice.

Then again I could have been Nife to you as Bishop Williamson would say, but someone somewhere has to post the truth, so that when it happens you will know how to continue.
Persevere in the holy faith so you dont end up like her.

There is always, always, hope for salvation before a person dies! Read on perfect act of contrition. What kind of Catholic write this garbage? You sin against the Holy Ghost.

And then he blames it on Bishop Williamson. I hope the Bishop Williamson is reading this and corrects him.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2014, 09:24:52 PM »

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And some NOers don't believe that the precept that requires we confess at least once / year applies to people who aren't in mortal sin.

Each and every one of the faithful of either sex have the obligation, from the time they attain the use of reason, to confess all their sins truthfully at least once a year, that is to say, all their mortal sins which have not yet been properly confessed and directly remitted by absolution.

(emphasis by author)

Tiffany · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2014, 10:23:14 PM »

SG you got all that from a two line post about an elderly person with dementia?

crossbro · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2014, 01:26:49 AM »

I disagree with the way soulgaurd said what he said but not with what he said. But in the end only God knows who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, at least on this side of life. But Jesus said that hell exists and it is a lake of fire...

In regards to this situation I think I liked what a poster said about bringing a priest in, I am certain the woman even through her dementia. The priest will give her absolution. She probably will not go to hell, heck most likely. See you there, thanks to websites like this one I will probably be in heck until the end of time.

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