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« on: March 30, 2014, 01:37:06 PM »
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    • does each priest consecrate his own Host at Mass, and is there a rubric for this?
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    « Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 03:11:29 PM »
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    • Please re-phrase your question.  It doesn't make sense.  The priest must consecrate a host at Mass or there is no Mass.  Any hand missal that shows the rubrics will also indicate exactly what the priest is doing and that he has a host.

    It seems you're asking something else, but I'm not sure what it is.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 09:33:48 PM »
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    • Are you asking about concelebration?  

    This doesn't ordinarily happen in the traditional Latin rite, although it is common in the NO.

    It is normal in the Eastern churches.  We would say that all the concelebrating join in consecrating the Sacrament.  
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    « Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 10:55:30 PM »
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    does each priest consecrate his own Host at Mass, and is there a rubric for this?

    Yes
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    « Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 10:57:48 PM »
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    Are you asking about concelebration?  

    This doesn't ordinarily happen in the traditional Latin rite, although it is common in the NO.

    It is normal in the Eastern churches.  We would say that all the concelebrating join in consecrating the Sacrament.  

    In a Latin Rite concelbration there is still one priest's host but all ovf the concelebrating priests participate in the consecration and each one communicates.  
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    « Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 09:54:05 AM »
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    • how would you know, if the priest was conscrating hosts for distribution at communion, or using hosts already consecrated by someone else.
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    « Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 10:16:23 AM »
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    how would you know, if the priest was conscrating hosts for distribution at communion, or using hosts already consecrated by someone else.


    He might be referring to one of those "indultery" "masses" to which I would reply that you don't know.
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    « Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 01:27:40 AM »
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    how would you know, if the priest was conscrating hosts for distribution at communion, or using hosts already consecrated by someone else.

    If he consumes the host from the ciborium where he concelebrated mass then he consumed a host that he participated in consecrating.
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    « Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 05:32:02 PM »
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    He might be referring to one of those "indultery" "masses" to which I would reply that you don't know.


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    how would you know, if the priest was conscrating hosts for distribution at communion, or using hosts already consecrated by someone else.


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    hosts for distribution




    He's not talking about the priest, poche. He's talking about the ones the priest is distributing.

    And the priest has one that is outside of the ciborium, separated from the rest of them. You can't consecrate a host again. Only once. The one he uses for his own communion is a non-consecrated host, separate from the rest of them. If he takes them out of the tabernacle to distribute, if there was a novus ordo mass there before, you really don't know if those came from the novus ordo or the Mass that he just said. All you have is the priest's word. That's it. That's why it's so dangerous!
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    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #9 on: April 03, 2014, 05:58:43 PM »
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    • I went to the indult a few times where you didn't know where the hosts came from. They were probably mostly Novus Ordo hosts because they took many of them from the tabernacle.
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    « Reply #10 on: April 03, 2014, 11:51:15 PM »
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    • Pius XII said that the hosts used for communion should be the hosts consecrated at that mass.
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    « Reply #11 on: April 04, 2014, 09:07:08 AM »
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    Pius XII said that the hosts used for communion should be the hosts consecrated at that mass.


    Obviously, that's not always being done. Pius XII said a lot of things that people just ignore now.
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    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #12 on: April 04, 2014, 09:40:47 AM »
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    • poche has just answered my question. thank you, poche.
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    « Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 11:03:20 AM »
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    Pius XII said that the hosts used for communion should be the hosts consecrated at that mass.


    I've heard this before from very reputable writers, but I've never seen the reference.  I haven't read everything Pope Pius XII wrote and have tried (albeit not thoroughly) to find this reference.  Can you point out where Pope Pius XII wrote this?  I'd like to see the full context of the instruction.
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    « Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 11:20:56 AM »
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    • but that would mean each priest would have to count the number of communicants at each Mass?
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