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confused and worried.
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:06:29 PM »
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  • Confused and worried,

    Hebrews 5,6 speaks about if you repent and then turn away from God, there will be no more sacrifice left for you from heaven and it would have been better for you to have not know the truth.

    I have repented and come back many times. I am back. For good.

    I am worred, I've messed up.

    Anonymous

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2020, 05:04:38 PM »
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    Anonymous

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #2 on: July 22, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »
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  • There's a saying that the just man sins seven times a day. We're imperfect creatures and will need Our Lord's help all the way until our last breath. The devil exists and will probably make you fall again when least expected. Don't get discouraged though.  I recommend reading about what final perseverance is about to fight those worries.
    God bless.

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2020, 07:29:38 PM »
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  • It's me. Forgot to check.

    Anonymous

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2020, 08:51:18 PM »
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  • It seems to me there is a distinction which needs to be made between turning from God and sinning.

    We are all fallen creatures and will continue to fall.  We go to confession, pick ourselves up, do penance, do charity, and try again.

    Turning from God means apostacizing.  I have been taught that if we are brought to Truth and then reject it, it would have been better if we had not known Truth, for apostacizing is a worse sin than having been ignorant.


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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2020, 09:19:05 PM »
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  • Any time I have repented, but a thought crosses my mind, maybe not, I point the disturbance as the devil.

    If that should happen, I do what Christ did when tempted, as man.  He told Satan the truth.

    Satan would say, "IF you are the Son of God change the stone to bread".  Satan is not sure if Christ is the Savior.  Point is Christ answers back with truth.

    When you have disturbances  your truth is, I repented, my sins are forgiven, begone Satan!

    Sacraments which are the Precious Blood is always needed, when we can.  Keep Holy Water in the home and use it often.  Spiritual communions as often as needed.

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2020, 09:46:58 PM »
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  • Your reference to Hebrew 5:6 confuses me. Are you talking about these verses?

    "[4] For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, have tasted also the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] Have moreover tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery." (Hebrews 6:4-6)

    In this case, see Bishop Challoner's explanation on what St. Paul means by the phrase "it is impossible": 

    [4] "It is impossible": The meaning is, that it is impossible for such as have fallen after baptism, to be again baptized; and very hard for such as have apostatized from the faith, after having received many graces, to return again to the happy state from which they fell.


    You seem to be confusing this with the unforgivable sin, the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. See Bishop Challoner's note on what this particular kind sin consists of (emphasis mine):

    "Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven." (Matthew 12:31) 

    "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. 


    (Since you have sincerely repented, you should not worry about having committed an unforgivable sin. God will not turn away someone who is truly repentant.) 


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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2020, 10:07:24 PM »
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  • No one is without sin but Christ as the Word made Flesh and Our Mother Mary.

    If we recognize our own shortcomings before the Lord and not turn back, we will be forgiven if we repent.
    Get off the internet and say your rosary!


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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2020, 10:27:08 PM »
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  • But I had rejected God after full knowledge and truth.

    That is what I am worried about.

    I want to return, I have made a mockery. 

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  • But I had rejected God after full knowledge and truth.

    That is what I am worried about.

    I want to return, I have made a mockery.
    Do not be worried. Go to confession if you haven’t already. You admit that you WANT to return, and you acknowledge your sins. You are repentant...this is a great grace from God, especially considering that most people who turn from by God by committing grave sins will sadly never come back, as Challoner notes.  

    Feeling guilt (compunction) for your sins is good in that it keeps us humble, but don’t let yourself be disturbed like this, thinking that you will not be forgiven. The Devil is trying to get you to be so horrified of your sins that you will give in to despair. 

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #10 on: July 22, 2020, 11:52:54 PM »
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  • Confused and worried,

    Hebrews 5,6 speaks about if you repent and then turn away from God, there will be no more sacrifice left for you from heaven and it would have been better for you to have not know the truth.

    I have repented and come back many times. I am back. For good.

    I am worred, I've messed up.
    If yo are back for good what are you worrying about specifically?


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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #11 on: July 23, 2020, 07:23:18 AM »
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  •  Satan is not sure if Christ is the Savior.  
    Dead wrong.
    Satan knows exactly who Jesus Christ is.
    Satan tempted the human nature of Christ. 

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #12 on: July 23, 2020, 07:27:28 AM »
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  • But I had rejected God after full knowledge and truth.

    That is what I am worried about.

    I want to return, I have made a mockery.
    St. Peter rejected Him three times.
    God is all merciful and all forgiving.

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #13 on: July 23, 2020, 07:54:52 AM »
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  • I think StLouisIX gives you very good info and advice.  Don't be scrupulous.  

    I would only add that you should make sure you have gone to a certainly valid priest for your confession.  Make sure that he was ordained in the Old Rite by a bishop that was consecrated in the Old Rite. If not, find a true priest.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: confused and worried.
    « Reply #14 on: July 23, 2020, 08:08:44 AM »
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  • But I had rejected God after full knowledge and truth.

    That is what I am worried about.

    I want to return, I have made a mockery.
    This doesn't make sense.
    If you have full knowledge and truth you have not rejected God.
    Is there some action that is worrying you?  If so, you need to confess it in the Sacrament of Penance.  If the priest gives you absolution then you are forgiven
    and restored to a state of grace.


     

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